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  • sillygoose
    sillygoose Posts: 4,795 Forumite
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    It's definitely C!!!!

    Can't make it simpler than this new file..

    http://www41.zippyshare.com/v/34244004/file.html

    The first sound is from J.May saying c@ck elsewhere in the program, second sound is him saying the dubious 'F' word I say.

    First sound is clearly made sharply off the roof of the mouth as 'C' sound is. It then starts into the 'oh' sound.

    Second sound totally different, made by air through teeth lips to start the 'Fhhh' sound then the sudden snap as the person releases and the air is released quicker. Its plainly then heading into the 'uh' sound.
  • vyle
    vyle Posts: 2,379 Forumite
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    No, I've listened to it multiple times and it is definitely cocking.

    It's like somebody I know likes to say "what the funk and wagnalls" and so many people think he's saying !!!!!! and swear blind that he said it.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    sillygoose wrote: »
    Can't make it simpler than this new file..

    http://www41.zippyshare.com/v/34244004/file.html

    The first sound is from J.May saying c@ck elsewhere in the program, second sound is him saying the dubious 'F' word I say.

    First sound is clearly made sharply off the roof of the mouth as 'C' sound is. It then starts into the 'oh' sound.

    Second sound totally different, made by air through teeth lips to start the 'Fhhh' sound then the sudden snap as the person releases and the air is released quicker. Its plainly then heading into the 'uh' sound.

    One, you could hardly make things more complicated that that file.
    Two, why are you fiddling about with wav files, when the program is sitting there on iplayer, and anyone can just pop along and have a listen for themselves?

    Just let us know how you get on with your complaint to Ofcom.
  • sillygoose
    sillygoose Posts: 4,795 Forumite
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    Valli wrote: »
    So, I posted this -

    Utter hysteria from you, OP.

    I don't see any point in complaining to the BBC as I doubt they air anything from Clarkson these days without pre-approving it. That is why I have raised it with Ofcom.

    I would point out that this is the Praise, Vent & Warnings forum and as such I think I am at least under the Vent umbrella and possibly the warning one too.

    You did make me smile at the suggestion of hysteria, I will get someone to slap me a couple of times, apply smelling salts and a stiff brandy.. see if it still sounds any different.
  • sillygoose
    sillygoose Posts: 4,795 Forumite
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    antrobus wrote: »
    One, you could hardly make things more complicated that that file.
    Two, why are you fiddling about with wav files, when the program is sitting there on iplayer, and anyone can just pop along and have a listen for themselves?

    Just let us know how you get on with your complaint to Ofcom.

    Its a lot easier to repeat play the relevant moment than keep hunting for the split second in iplayer is why.

    Sadly Ofcom do not reply to complaints according to their response.
  • sillygoose
    sillygoose Posts: 4,795 Forumite
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    Tell me OP. Have you been in a branch of Subway lately?

    Afraid not, actually I have never been closer than 20 yards to a Subway as the smell makes me wretch.

    Besides you get a much better class of customer in Greggs.
  • Valli
    Valli Posts: 25,473 Forumite
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    edited 5 August 2013 at 7:49PM
    sillygoose wrote: »
    I don't see any point in complaining to the BBC as I doubt they air anything from Clarkson these days without pre-approving it. That is why I have raised it with Ofcom.

    I would point out that this is the Praise, Vent & Warnings forum and as such I think I am at least under the Vent umbrella and possibly the warning one too.

    You did make me smile at the suggestion of hysteria, I will get someone to slap me a couple of times, apply smelling salts and a stiff brandy.. see if it still sounds any different.


    Fine; now you're addressing my points.

    Yes, I know this is a PV&W forum, but, like I said, there are channels you could use and if you did use them your complaint would be addressed; they are obliged under the terms of their charter to address complaints,.

    They also provide their own programme, Points of View through which complaints can be addressed.

    You've chosen to complain to OfCOM; fair enough.

    So why ALSO post a thread on here?

    That's what I asked.

    Now other people, who have either watched the programme or looked at it since you have posted are arguing with you over whether you and they have heard C or F.

    FWIW I haven't watched it. I don't actually care what was said; my kids are more than old enough to hear and use foul language so whatever was broadcast on the BBC isn't, for me, an issue.

    But to complain to OfCOM and then argue vehemently about whether it was a C or F you heard seems somewhat hysterical.

    Even your response to my suggestion you appear hysterical (slap, smelling salts and brandy? really?) is, in itself hysterical!
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
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  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    SG

    I rather suspect you have forgotten the First Law of Holes.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • ianders
    ianders Posts: 223 Forumite
    There is no argument here. It is clearly a C as proved by multiple people who've listened to it and checked the subtitles on iPlayer.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2013 at 9:40AM
    During the programme it sounded like (text removed by MSE Forum Team) not cocking but decided it wasn't as it would have been edited out. As its top gear, the bus would have been driven into the trees repeatedly just to get the almost swearing just right.
    When's clarksons baby due?
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