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Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues
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A truly great man has died.
RIP Nelson Mandela0 -
Daniel? Abel? Jacob? Benjamin? Reuben? Samuel? Aaron?
Rachel? Ruth? Not ending in a vowel is tricky with girls. I'm not sure whether Elizabeth is sufficiently Hebrew - I mean I know it's etymologically Hebrew, but I'm not aware of anybody in the OT of that name.
Daniel, Jacob and Samuel all found disfavour with OH (told you he was fussy). Aaron would sound terrible with the surname. Abel - not sure about a party to the First Murder, myself, possibly not a great omen?
Benjamin - OH quite liked that, until he thought about Netanyahu and went off it. Rachel and Ruth both met with some cautious OH-related approval.
Elizabeth was the mother of John the Baptist, and there is a Hebrew version of the name, OH said it to me, not sure how you spell it in English the way it's said in Hebrew - Elisha, perhaps? In fact, Elizabeth is a long way a favourite of mine, but I'm going to save the arguments until we find out the gender, on 27th December (-:What were you going to call Isaac if he'd been a girl? Could you use that if this one is a girl?
When I was pregnant with DS we talked about his names on a car journey from Somerset to Scotland, and sorted out a name and a middle name for a boy, and a name for a girl (but no middle name). Then we had the 20 week scan and they said he was a boy.
When I was pregnant with DD three years later, we again drove to Scotland (to see my brother). DS didn't give us much opportunity to spend the journey discussing names. It went something like this:
Me: Do you want to try choosing names at this stage or shall we wait for the 20 week scan and find out the sex so we only have to choose for one or the other.
Him: Let's wait for the scan.
<after the scan, which said she was a girl...>
Me: Do you want to rethink names from scratch or shall we stick with <girl's name chosen for DS before we knew he was a boy>
Him: Oh, I don't want to go through that again. Let's stick with <name>.
We didn't choose a middle name for her until a couple of weeks before she was due, in the end.
We hadn't agreed on a girl's name for definite before we found out it was a boy, 4 weeks before he was born, although we had a likely choice. We hadn't intended to find out, but I had a growth scan (where they predicted he would weigh 11lb, wrongly, as he turned out to weigh 8lb at full term).
We didn't definitely chose Isaac until the night before his Brit. His middle name was easier - OH doesn't have strong feelings about middle names needing to be Jewish, and most Israelis don't even have them - OH and his brother don't have them, for example. So we gave him my Dad's middle name as Isaac's middle name, too, Welsh spelling and all....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
But there's no Mary in the OT, is there? So it's just a NT name. Whereas the Joseph in Genesis gets way more coverage (several chapters just for his story) than the brief mention of the one at the beginning of Luke and Matthew.
Mary was the mother of a liberal, reformist Jew, can't get much more Jewish than that (-:
OH says he's pretty sure "Miriam" is the OT version of "Mary".
Joseph's out because OH's grandfather was Joseph - a man much easier to respect than to like. OH's cousins all called him "Uncle Joe" with a deliberate sideways look at Stalin, OH reckons.....
We had sort-of agreed we both liked Elizabeth last time, so I'm hoping OH still thinks that way.
In general, OH is a man of sweet reason, not fussy, and an angel to live and deal with. Names for potential off-spring appear to be an exception to this pleasant rule....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
A truly great man has died.
RIP Nelson Mandela
One of the very few humans who truly deserved to be put on a pedestal.
He was a true hero.
I was in the crowd at Wembley when he came on stage and addressed us a couple of months after he was released. It was electric.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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In general, OH is a man of sweet reason, not fussy, and an angel to live and deal with. Names for potential off-spring appear to be an exception to this pleasant rule.
When you are in the throes of labour, he may agree to anything.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
I love the name Ruth. Something I have little of , lol.
English spelling of Elizabeth. Another time I feel 'not terribly British'. Its a name I write reasonably often with an s.
Edit I don't think one is better or worse, its just I'm programmed to 's' first. I prefer 'z's to 's's though. Zs are spiky and independent and tough and proud, whilst an s is insidious and wily and hypnotically charmingly two faced.
Hmm. I think I might over personalise the alphabet.0 -
I predict Nelson will start moving up the popular names list.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0
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Doozergirl wrote: »There is a little girl in DD's class with that name. There are four (nearly five) siblings. Every one of them, including mum, has a name beginning with K.
When I was growing up we always had stuff for us kids labelled just with the initial, which was easy because we're all different. I wanted my kids to have initials that were different from each other and different from me and LNE. He and I had the same initial, though.neverdespairgirl wrote: »Mary was the mother of a liberal, reformist Jew, can't get much more Jewish than that (-:
Love it!
neverdespairgirl wrote: »OH says he's pretty sure "Miriam" is the OT version of "Mary".
Joseph's out because OH's grandfather was Joseph - a man much easier to respect than to like. OH's cousins all called him "Uncle Joe" with a deliberate sideways look at Stalin, OH reckons.....
We had sort-of agreed we both liked Elizabeth last time, so I'm hoping OH still thinks that way.
I like Elizabeth too. It's DD's middle name.neverdespairgirl wrote: »In general, OH is a man of sweet reason, not fussy, and an angel to live and deal with. Names for potential off-spring appear to be an exception to this pleasant rule.
Well, there are many things about which you can afford to be unfussy and willing to go with other people's choices. Naming your offspring isn't one of them. You are going to have to address and refer to said offspring by the name countless times for the rest of your life. So I don't blame him.
Hope you find something you both like.
Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
lostinrates wrote: »Really? That works?
Tell me, is it more effective than in the throes of passion?
Yes, its a guilt trip for putting you through so much pain.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0
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