Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

...you wrote so well about what a bad day you are having that it did make me me laugh out loud.

Tt did sound mean .... but made me LOL too

PasturesNew

vivatifosi wrote: »

A question for our resident legal eagles. Given the seriousness of keeping three people as slaves for 30 years, one of whom was a child, why have those arrested for this been bailed?

I understand that being arrested is not the same as being charged, but this is so grave a case, and the couple are allegedly foreign, so surely a flight risk... I know if I was facing a lengthy jail sentence I would be plotting my escape from the clutches of the law asap. Unless I was innocent of course.

Maybe they took their passports off them and they're a bit bewildered/frail so not a flight risk.

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

Edit: PN box sorted if it was one of you lot trying to message me

Not me ... ever.

LydiaJ

DD has bike to school day today. We have done it before, but today is the first time I'm going to carry on and cycle to work afterwards.

bugslet

silvercar wrote: »

In theory sub-cut is much easier to do, as you don't need to find a vein. I think that any fully qualified nurse is meant to be allowed to administer it. Of course the problem is that nurses can't prescribe and someone has to prescribe it first.

I also thought that sub-cut made patient feel comfortable whereas IV was a higher intervention, but I may be wrong. I was blocking things out when we got to that point.

Sub-cut is less invasive. However we are now back to doing the sub-cut today because the district nurses are coming in to do it. We have to pay for them - I thought that would definitely be nursing, but obviously it's a sort of optional extra. Yes, sarcsam, it's not attractive.

They have qualified nurses, but it's a procedure that the home haven't signed up for, there fore they have to be re-trained or some such gubbins. they do far more complicated drug administration than that there. The GP prescribed it on Tuesday.

lostinrates wrote: »

Bugslet, haven't got book in but have remembered name......I think..prestigious textiles lands end. There are two colour ways. I like the sunset one over the dawn one for my house. (In an east facing window, lol)


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http://www.housedecorltd.co.uk/prestigious-textiles

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lands-end-fabric---sunset-8523517-33008-p.asp

Nearest to life I can find on google image, but nothing like the depth of it. Its a velvet, and looks like a painting. The yellow tone is more vibrant. And the ...orange just peeping at the edges is more prominent than they suggest, its quite a key element.

I'm not sure what sort of quantity I'll need, I haven't looked at the width of it, I like lots of fabric, but the pattern might look odd with too much repeat. I'll see when head is fresher hopefully.


They have some really nice things, beautiful art in textile. Nature I have loved and next to nature Art........in textiles. Sorry landor, I strove with someone too. But I was thinking that line with excitement looking through the books of this company at some of their florals.

Love it, love it, love it. I'd skip the curtains, stick it on batons and do a wall with it - it would annoy me too much to have it as curtains and the curtains pushed back. I think I said I did a fabric wall before and it looks great. If I could work out how to get picture from phone to computer, I'd happily post it.

bugslet

lostinrates wrote: »

Thirty years as a slave locked in a house. Imagine.

I heard an interview last night ont he way home with the lady from the Freedom charity the women contacted - I'm sure she said that they had limited access to the outside? I'm thinking that if they were from abroad that they may not speak English well enough and perhaps if they were from somewhere with less reliable police, that they may have been told that if they reported anything they would be put in prison for being here illegally. It is unbelievable and as someone ( sorry) said, one of them has spent her entire life not knowing anything but that life. Shocking.

Generali wrote: »

I'm fine. It turns out I have SPS: Stupid Person Syndrome. I'm still a bit wobbly from the accident but there's nothing physically wrong.

That's good to hear and I'm pleased that no trucks were responsible!

GDB2222

vivatifosi wrote: »

A question for our resident legal eagles. Given the seriousness of keeping three people as slaves for 30 years, one of whom was a child, why have those arrested for this been bailed?

I understand that being arrested is not the same as being charged, but this is so grave a case, and the couple are allegedly foreign, so surely a flight risk... I know if I was facing a lengthy jail sentence I would be plotting my escape from the clutches of the law asap. Unless I was innocent of course.

Can I express some doubts about this? It may be a lot more complicated than is being made out. I expect that the couple thought they were treating their servants as members of the family, just lower down the social scale, unpaid and discouraged from going out. The servants' failure to escape was presumably more on the basis that they had nowhere else to go, or felt they had not, than that they were locked up.

So, the sort of charges the couple may end up facing are failure to pay the national minimum wage (less a deduction for board, lodging etc), maybe some Elfin Safety charges, too.

This is obviously just speculation.

Edit: Ah, Bugslet said much the same.

lostinrates

bugslet wrote: »

Sub-cut is less invasive. However we are now back to doing the sub-cut today because the district nurses are coming in to do it. We have to pay for them - I thought that would definitely be nursing, but obviously it's a sort of optional extra. Yes, sarcsam, it's not attractive.

They have qualified nurses, but it's a procedure that the home haven't signed up for, there fore they have to be re-trained or some such gubbins. they do far more complicated drug administration than that there. The GP prescribed it on Tuesday.



Love it, love it, love it. I'd skip the curtains, stick it on batons and do a wall with it - it would annoy me too much to have it as curtains and the curtains pushed back. I think I said I did a fabric wall before and it looks great. If I could work out how to get picture from phone to computer, I'd happily post it.

I love fabric walls...but I'm putting this in a room not yet refurbished. I also like the idea of once the view of the day is gone having the treat of a new view to get excited about. When I saw this I thought it was paper and wanted it still though



Hugs to you bugslet.

GDB2222

bugslet wrote: »

Sub-cut is less invasive. However we are now back to doing the sub-cut today because the district nurses are coming in to do it. We have to pay for them - I thought that would definitely be nursing, but obviously it's a sort of optional extra. Yes, sarcsam, it's not attractive.

They have qualified nurses, but it's a procedure that the home haven't signed up for, there fore they have to be re-trained or some such gubbins. they do far more complicated drug administration than that there. The GP prescribed it on Tuesday.

It must be so frustrating that something that was prescribed on Tuesday is taking 3 days to put in place. He is fortunate that you are there to bat for him, though.

PasturesNew

GDB2222 wrote: »

It must be so frustrating that something that was prescribed on Tuesday is taking 3 days to put in place. .

This is what we found - when somebody's needs are fast-changing/suddenly appearing, the system moves too slowly; so slowly that sometimes all the effort's wasted as you never get to that point before things changed again.