Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

Doozergirl

lostinrates wrote: »

Loo seat try the 'in your house' inc DIY forum michaels. There are some plumbing friendly peeps in there.

Cousin knows as he did our main bathroom properly after DH unscrewed the loo. My ensuite one is still wobbly. They look so much better and have less nooks to clean, but how you tighten the screws is a mystery to me.

Someone on In My Home can't get listed building consent to remove a original staircase and replace with a spiral one amongst other wall knocking. No one else on the board seems to get the true point of listed buildings. Yes, to preserve, not exactly 'making it work for you too'. I want to bang heads in there

PasturesNew

vivatifosi wrote: »

... you should go work for Gen;)

She's probably too old. He's safe.

When you do those "will they let me in" tests, they don't like you being 40, or not being on their list of "preferred jobs", or not having a fortune in the bank.

They'd have not let me in this whole century for various reasons.... even though my ancestor FOUND the ruddy country.

They like hairdressers though. It's a funny world.

PasturesNew

Re bathrooms and plumbing.... in some bathrooms you see a bath that has its edge at three walls. Only one side open to the room. Look carefully and see which of these baths have middle-mounted taps on the far side, in the middle of the bath .... you'd have to take the WHOLE bath out to be able to change the taps or access the fittings under the tap. There's no way to reach, reach round, or get tools to that spot.

vivatifosi

Doozergirl wrote: »

Cousin knows as he did our main bathroom properly after DH unscrewed the loo. My ensuite one is still wobbly. They look so much better and have less nooks to clean, but how you tighten the screws is a mystery to me.

My Dad has a special spanner thingy that goes round corners. Unfortunately I have no idea what it is called. I have also been advised that it is better toilet seats have better nuts, so you get a tighter nut.

I think I will now sign off from double entendre central before I get myself in trouble.

misskool

michaels wrote: »

No one was able to help on the toilet seat question so I'll try you lot on a data presentation queston instead.

WE display monthly expenditure data broken down by category in a pie chart as a quick way for users to see proportions. Occasionally for accounting reasons for some categories in some months expenditure may be negative. What is the best grapihical way to display the data?

conditional formatting data bar
stacked bar charts

misskool

PasturesNew wrote: »

It's not representative of the business world's thinking .... I'd have found/set a test ... and made it good, fair and measurable.

As you say, it's a reusable benchmark,

Although, the trend in all sectors has been to select people "just like them" - whether that's by the councils expecting people to have experience/knowledge of their in-house software and procedures ... or small business' choosing on whether the person seems fun enough to go down the pub with them after work.

It seems it's no longer about whether you can do the job; it's more about being a performer, blagger and confidence trickster. Or, as I see in many workplaces, fitting into some identifiable gang, whether that's the handbag you carry or the clothes you wear or the area you live in.

A test determines how well someone can do the job. For our interviews, we have a technical aspect where we quiz them and it becomes obvious when they can't explain it.

Many many jobs require communication skills (especially those that require you to work in a team) and it's just as important to communicate how good you are as well as what skills you need to improve.

There is no one out to get anyone else. It's about selecting the best qualified candidate on a range of skills.

misskool

lostinrates wrote: »

Lots of what DH does requires team work. Sometimes the teams work well because they have different outlooks and see different 'holes' and flaws or ways to resolve. Quite often its the 'mono vision' teams that think that they have done really well and then get rattly because they don't play well with others who are good at playing with people who are different. IMO good team work is working as a team in a collegiate and productive manner drawing on each others strengths and weaknesses and differences in outlook etc as a bonus. Having a shared sense of achievement and 'in it together' sure, but..not sure being too similar is necessarily always a bonus. Someone who looks at the issue another way up to you sees the holes. For example, when reading about sue's upcoming weekend, it was Lydia's post after mine that made me think, yep, I definitely see that now, And 'hmm, now phrased that way I wonder if.....and then thought of some solutions I might use were I in sue's situation...which I'm not going into because she hasn't asked again and its none of our business, the point is, I read, didn't wholly agree or see the whole issue, then read another opinion, that saw two sides of the problem from a different vantage and this was a benefit to me because of the difference in approach.


Drive to get stuff done helps in any job....team work perhaps might help those with less, because they get some momentum from the group if there are a couple of drivers, but a bad 'dragged' or a few of them pull a team back. But they'd slow done someone in any work situation, working alone too.

Fit isn't about being a mono-vision team. We have a variety of mix and a variety of backgrounds and everyone thinks differently which leads to robust discussion. But all of us can put together an opinion and can critically analyse data and are able to think in things in different ways. All of us are tenacious (you need buckets of that in what we do) and confident.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Re bathrooms and plumbing.... in some bathrooms you see a bath that has its edge at three walls. Only one side open to the room. Look carefully and see which of these baths have middle-mounted taps on the far side, in the middle of the bath .... you'd have to take the WHOLE bath out to be able to change the taps or access the fittings under the tap. There's no way to reach, reach round, or get tools to that spot.

That's exactly what we have. And ....yes there is way to access the taps. From the other side. .

Its the best way to make a bathroom look bigger IMO.

lostinrates

misskool wrote: »

Fit isn't about being a mono-vision team. We have a variety of mix and a variety of backgrounds and everyone thinks differently which leads to robust discussion. But all of us can put together an opinion and can critically analyse data and are able to think in things in different ways. All of us are tenacious (you need buckets of that in what we do) and confident.

No, and what you just described essentially is what I described. But your first description, IMO, could be read a either interpretation.

Depending which vantage person is looking. . Which is why the two of us Explained the concept more wholly than either one alone perhaps?

bugslet

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Good thing that's not required in my job - I'm rubbish at teamwork. If something needs doing, better to do it yourself (-:

I did a career driver thing once, where they decided what motivated you to work, money, status, social care. Mine was independence. However, I can work in a team, as long as they do what they are told.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Numbers are lovely..... it's nice to just sit and do data analysis for weeks on end to produce results.

I've had a lot of data analysis jobs using various databases and Excel.... love it.

I have mild dyscalculia, anything with number is torture. Stick some letters in and call it algebra and I'm part way on side, anything with a decimal point and I have to count the zeros and do some serious thinking. Excel is a mystery as well and long may it remain so!