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  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    hone123 wrote: »
    As their absences are very good the schools have agreed as its a one off I also work in a school and my holiday is authorised,

    OP, off subject I know but haven't the rules regarding schools authorising holidays changed and from September they are not allowed to authorise it, records go to the council and they issue fines.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • SuzyZ
    SuzyZ Posts: 135 Forumite
    edited 31 July 2013 at 9:41AM
    So now it's gone from original post about her daughter not getting time off work to her childrens' absences from school not being authorised (even though OP says it is).

    I find it really weird here sometimes. You occasionally get people who don't write very well or English is not their first language who other forum users are very polite and respectful to and understanding of this, and this OP who speaks *text speak* - maybe for speed and/or makes the occasional spelling/grammatical error is immediately pounced on and assumptions made about her parenting skills and how she writes on a forum. I'm not saying I agree with text speak but it's not the crime of the century. Also, if she gets her points across adequately with text speak then what is wrong with that?! No need to disrespect her about her usage of it.

    How sad that this should escalate from a simple question (and OP didn't fight back that much, just defended herself) into a slanging match. It seems like a lot of the time here it's point scoring.
  • Cycrow
    Cycrow Posts: 2,639 Forumite
    i dont see what the big deal of leaving a 17 year old at home alone is.
    when i was 15/16 i used to go on holidays on my own/with a few mates.

    its no wander some of the 18 year olds going to uni struggle if they've never been given any independence before, then suddenly moving away and having to live by themselves and cover all the bills, etc
  • SuzyZ
    SuzyZ Posts: 135 Forumite
    Cycrow wrote: »
    i dont see what the big deal of leaving a 17 year old at home alone is.
    when i was 15/16 i used to go on holidays on my own/with a few mates.

    its no wander some of the 18 year olds going to uni struggle if they've never been given any independence before, then suddenly moving away and having to live by themselves and cover all the bills, etc

    Some teenagers are more mature than others. When I was 17 I lived at home (shock horror!) but also had a job and also went on holiday with parents and friends. I could've gone on holiday at 15/16 but I highly doubt it would have been allowed if it were abroad or without a responsible adult.

    From the age of 15/16 I was also left at home alone with my brother when my parents went abroad. I guess there were 2 of us and neighbours either side to keep an eye on us.

    Why do you say some 18 year olds struggle re uni? Some of us get jobs and then pay bills etc and don't go to uni. My half sister after graduating uni was constantly overdrawn and in debt once she qualified, that was with having a job whilst at uni.
  • Cycrow
    Cycrow Posts: 2,639 Forumite
    SuzyZ wrote: »
    Why do you say some 18 year olds struggle re uni? Some of us get jobs and then pay bills etc and don't go to uni. My half sister after graduating uni was constantly overdrawn and in debt once she qualified, that was with having a job whilst at uni.

    When i was at uni, it was pretty clear that some people there simply couldn't cope. Some of the people i knew dropped out after 6 months because they couldn't handle living away from home. one of them being my roommate at the halls who was struggling from day 1.
    i was actually 20 when i went to uni because i had to redo collage. But most of my uni friends were all just 18, and some of them didn't have any independence previously.

    most students end up with debts, but i wasn't really referring to the debts
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    hone123 wrote: »
    I don't want to leave her alone, she is responsible, she's only been 17 for 2 weeks, if I said she was 16 would you still say that's ok to leave her, she would be left here with no one as we are all on holiday, ok we are only 400 miles away still a fair trek if something we're to happen, perhaps it would be different if she was nearer 18 but she's not, and as a responsible parent I feel that she shouldn't be left, the apron strings are loosening but I don't want to give to much too soon

    Yes at 16 she would be fine too. As I said she is old enough to live alone or be married with a child of her own at 16!

    As long as she has a little common sense, can use a can opener and knows when to call 999 then she won't suffer any harm whatsoever if you leave her.

    In fact it's an excellent opportunity to allow her some managed responsibility in preparation for her leaving home and setting up on her own.
  • NYM
    NYM Posts: 4,066 Forumite
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    hone123 wrote: »
    My daughter got her first job as apprentice hairdresser, on her induction day she took in holiday dates for a pre booked holiday, she's been told that she cannot go on these dates, as there are 2 hairdressers off at the same time, even tho she's only a junior so wouldn't be doing any hairdressing, so couldn't cover them, so we've either got to cancel holiday for whole family which is for my birthday or leave my daughter behind for the 2 weeks, as holidays all ready paid for has been since apr we would loose all money paid, not happy leaving her here, does she have any rights, also she wasn't asked at interview about pre booked holidays thanks


    It's a shame that she forgot to ask for the time off for the pre-booked holiday during her interview, however, I don't think her Employer is being unreasonably in refusing her the time off as they're under no obligation to honour her request. Had they been made aware of it during the interview, they may have chosen another candidate.

    It's only you and your daughter that need to make a decision on what to do now.

    Your daughter could of course give up her apprenticeship if she felt that the holiday was more important

    You could cancel the holiday if you felt your daughter wasn't capable of being on her own.

    Don't make a rash decision just yet, you might be surprised at how quickly she'll 'grow-up' in the few weeks she's earning her own income.
  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    I used to stay at home alone before I was 17. We used to go to the coast each year for 2 weeks but then I stopped wanting to go so stayed at home, no biggy.
  • hone123
    hone123 Posts: 93 Forumite
    SuzyZ wrote: »
    So now it's gone from original post about her daughter not getting time off work to her childrens' absences from school not being authorised (even though OP says it is).

    I find it really weird here sometimes. You occasionally get people who don't write very well or English is not their first language who other forum users are very polite and respectful to and understanding of this, and this OP who speaks *text speak* - maybe for speed and/or makes the occasional spelling/grammatical error is immediately pounced on and assumptions made about her parenting skills and how she writes on a forum. I'm not saying I agree with text speak but it's not the crime of the century. Also, if she gets her points across adequately with text speak then what is wrong with that?! No need to disrespect her about her usage of it.

    How sad that this should escalate from a simple question (and OP didn't fight back that much, just defended herself) into a slanging match. It seems like a lot of the time here it's point scoring.

    Thanks much appreciated, don't really get why people feel the need to put others down
  • hone123
    hone123 Posts: 93 Forumite
    This_Year wrote: »
    not attended at all, I work for myself. ;)

    or did you mean offended? In which case, no, I don't take offence that easily. It makes life far easier to just let slights go.

    When I was 13 I got my first Saturday job. I asked for the time off to go on a family holiday and they said yes to the second Saturday but no to the first. My parents would never have dreamed of lying and saying I was ill on the day I wasn't allowed so I went on holiday, in the UK, returned home by train from Devon to London alone, back to the empty house, made my dinner, went to bed , got up next day, went to work, back home that night and the next day got the train back down to Devon to resume my holiday.

    I'm beginning to suspect that your daughter actually doesn't want to go to this family knees-up and hasn't even asked for the time off. At 17 a holiday in the UK with all my relatives would have seemed like Hell on earth to me.

    You can choose your friends. ;)

    Oh and at 17 I had a job and didn't live with my parents.

    And you questioned my parenting skills, I think you'd find that allowing a 13 year old to stay home alone is against the law. And now my daughter is a liar. My daughter does want to come as I've said we are a close family and enjoy our time togethe
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