what r her rights

pimento

Dunroamin wrote: »

Two weeks in the UK with all your relatives when you're 17 - wow!

Point taken..

saintjammyswine

Have you/has you daughter asked the college whether she could take time off from there? It is not only the employer that has to give permission when on an apprenticeship dont forget.

hone123

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Have you/has you daughter asked the college whether she could take time off from there? It is not only the employer that has to give permission when on an apprenticeship dont forget.

Yes college were aware of holiday dates when applied, as this is a one off holiday it was fine, don't make a habit of it as I have other children too, college starts later than school, she would miss 3 days

hone123

Dunroamin wrote: »

So she'd be missing the first two days of college as well?

Presumably if she'd carried on with her original plan and gone to college she'd have missed two weeks of that instead - neither's really a good start to a young person's career nor shows much supportive parenting, does it?

This is a one off holiday as its my birthday treat we are a very supportive family and very close knit hence the big family holiday, over 30 of us going, I don't really feel it's necessary to put down my parenting skills do you? college was informed when she applied for place, as my children school were notified, a mistake made by a nervous teenager on her first interview, where your all right it should have been mentioned, although she is 17 she is not an adult and as a parent I'm not happy leaving her alone, not because I don't trust her, or she's not responsible enough, because it's a huge responsibility to place on her shoulders that I feel she's not ready for, yes if there was a family member here that could check on her maybe, but they are all going to be with us on our holiday

Southend1

hone123 wrote: »

This is a one off holiday as its my birthday treat we are a very supportive family and very close knit hence the big family holiday, over 30 of us going, I don't really feel it's necessary to put down my parenting skills do you? college was informed when she applied for place, as my children school were notified, a mistake made by a nervous teenager on her first interview, where your all right it should have been mentioned, although she is 17 she is not an adult and as a parent I'm not happy leaving her alone, not because I don't trust her, or she's not responsible enough, because it's a huge responsibility to place on her shoulders that I feel she's not ready for, yes if there was a family member here that could check on her maybe, but they are all going to be with us on our holiday

She IS a young adult. She will never become independent if you don't loosen the apron strings. As I said before, she is in theory old enough to be married with children and her own place at her age.

On the one hand you say she is responsible enough to be left alone, on the other you say it's too much responsibility for her! Which is it?

Dunroamin

hone123 wrote: »

This is a one off holiday as its my birthday treat we are a very supportive family and very close knit hence the big family holiday, over 30 of us going, I don't really feel it's necessary to put down my parenting skills do you? college was informed when she applied for place, as my children school were notified, a mistake made by a nervous teenager on her first interview, where your all right it should have been mentioned, although she is 17 she is not an adult and as a parent I'm not happy leaving her alone, not because I don't trust her, or she's not responsible enough, because it's a huge responsibility to place on her shoulders that I feel she's not ready for, yes if there was a family member here that could check on her maybe, but they are all going to be with us on our holiday

So you were taking other children out of school for this holiday as well?:eek:

And you don't "notify" a school that children won't be there because they're taking term time holidays, you ask for permission to do so. Schools can no longer give permission for this so your other children will have unauthorised absences on their records.

hone123

Southend1 wrote: »

She IS a young adult. She will never become independent if you don't loosen the apron strings. As I said before, she is in theory old enough to be married with children and her own place at her age.

On the one hand you say she is responsible enough to be left alone, on the other you say it's too much responsibility for her! Which is it?

I don't want to leave her alone, she is responsible, she's only been 17 for 2 weeks, if I said she was 16 would you still say that's ok to leave her, she would be left here with no one as we are all on holiday, ok we are only 400 miles away still a fair trek if something we're to happen, perhaps it would be different if she was nearer 18 but she's not, and as a responsible parent I feel that she shouldn't be left, the apron strings are loosening but I don't want to give to much too soon

hone123

Dunroamin wrote: »

So you were taking other children out of school for this holiday as well?:eek:

And you don't "notify" a school that children won't be there because they're taking term time holidays, you ask for permission to do so. Schools can no longer give permission for this so your other children will have unauthorised absences on their records.

As their absences are very good the schools have agreed as its a one off I also work in a school and my holiday is authorised,

This_Year

hone123 wrote: »

This_Year wrote: »

It reads as if you are 17. I have a 17 year old daughter too, I am happy for her to stay at home, she frequently does. I also know my daughter's friends, and their parents, have done since she first made friends. I trust my daughter.

If you're worried about what she might let happen in your absence then you really should be looking at your parenting skills. In a year she'll be 18. It's not about wrapping your child in cotton wool to protect them from the world, it's bringing your child up and teaching the skills needed to get along in the world.

And to answer your question, employers can stop someone taking a holiday if it doesn't fit in with the business needs. The time to have asked for the holiday was when the job was offered, and even then, employers do not have to honour the dates. Some/most do but it is not a requirement.

Sorry this isn't in text speak, I was brought up in a time when the phone was attached to the wall in the hall and you sat on the stairs to communicate.

I can assure u my parenting skills are fine, I have 5 children who have all turned out well, as I've said I trust her completely, I just feel she is too young to be left alone for this amount of time. I didn't come on here for parenting skills or an English lesson, how text talk can affend so many people amazes me, as someone said its for speed, perhaps you are easily attended.

not attended at all, I work for myself.

or did you mean offended? In which case, no, I don't take offence that easily. It makes life far easier to just let slights go.

When I was 13 I got my first Saturday job. I asked for the time off to go on a family holiday and they said yes to the second Saturday but no to the first. My parents would never have dreamed of lying and saying I was ill on the day I wasn't allowed so I went on holiday, in the UK, returned home by train from Devon to London alone, back to the empty house, made my dinner, went to bed , got up next day, went to work, back home that night and the next day got the train back down to Devon to resume my holiday.

I'm beginning to suspect that your daughter actually doesn't want to go to this family knees-up and hasn't even asked for the time off. At 17 a holiday in the UK with all my relatives would have seemed like Hell on earth to me.

You can choose your friends.

Oh and at 17 I had a job and didn't live with my parents.

Faith177

I was left on my own at 17 for up to 3 weeks at a time. I had one friend stay over a couple of nights to keep me company. We didn't have wild parties we just chilled out and got on with things. I knew that if I mucked up I would never get the chance again so I behaved.

My mum use to take me and my brother to Scotland (600 miles away) for a month every summer this particular summer my mum said if I wanted to stay at home she understood so I did. I had a cadet camp the 1st week and when I got back from that I just went home.

I think you might not be giving your daughter enough credit to prove herself you can't watch over them all their lives you have to let ten prove themselves.