Squatting is the Only Affordable Housing

E.L.James

DRP wrote: »

do you know the current and historical trends for this comparison?

Yes I do, do you? Min wage compared with average rents in London is now the furthest out of whack than at any time in history.

E.L.James

lawriejones1 wrote: »

That would be fine but, recent Government (i.e. Conservative ones which are obviously doctored to improve the position) still clearly show a jobless population of around 2 million, and around 600,000 jobs on offer.

What do you suggest the over 1,400,000 do to 'man up' as you so wonderfully put it?

I'm a higher rate taxpayer and have never claimed unemployment benefit but have seen what doing so has done to proud men and women who have served this country as police officers, fire fighters and in the armed forces. They feel ashamed with no good reason, suffer from depression and more.

It's easy to be a keyboard warrior and type this crap, but don't buy the Daily Mail rubbish - most people who claim deserve their paltry £60 a week.

As for squatters, I'm ambivalent. I don't believe 'prperty is theft' but I'd be pretty !!!!ed off at the many thousands of empty homes that line the streets of London mostly owned by dodgy foreign business people hiding their money from the taxman.

Many in this country do not see that what is happening in Europe is on its way to these shores.

There are so many families losing their homes due to not being able to afford the mortgage repayments or not being able to afford the rent.

They just stay in their home squatting until they get forcibly evicted. Then what can they do? They have to squat somewhere else, or be homeless until they find some shelter for their family.

There are many large estates empty, some with half finished plots the builders all left due to the GFC. With all the homeless looking for shelter I personally do not blame them.

Some on this thread call them layabouts yes lazy arent they. Why dont they just go and get a job, after all its easy isnt it? There are loads of jobs easy to get, bunch of lazy wasters.

Same for the 2million and growing unemployed in this country, there are loads of jobs very easy to get, and then its very easy to pay the rents especially in London. rents are not that high compared with miniumum wage, its easy to get the deposit together and pay the rent with loads left over to save for a deposit so they can buy their own property. After all that is the way it should be........

houseimprover

E.L.James wrote: »

If rents were reasonable compared to average earnings, like min wage then no problem. But at the moment you can understand these squaters.

No, no I cannot understand squatters. Glad it was made illegal and they can be kicked out alot quicker now!

houseimprover

E.L.James wrote: »

Many in this country do not see that what is happening in Europe is on its way to these shores.

There are so many families losing their homes due to not being able to afford the mortgage repayments or not being able to afford the rent.

They just stay in their home squatting until they get forcibly evicted. Then what can they do? They have to squat somewhere else, or be homeless until they find some shelter for their family.

There are many large estates empty, some with half finished plots the builders all left due to the GFC. With all the homeless looking for shelter I personally do not blame them.

Some on this thread call them layabouts yes lazy arent they. Why dont they just go and get a job, after all its easy isnt it? There are loads of jobs easy to get, bunch of lazy wasters.

Same for the 2million and growing unemployed in this country, there are loads of jobs very easy to get, and then its very easy to pay the rents especially in London. rents are not that high compared with miniumum wage, its easy to get the deposit together and pay the rent with loads left over to save for a deposit so they can buy their own property. After all that is the way it should be........

Its down and if you cannot afford the rents in London then move out of London. Just to add to this if people did actually move from london it would bring the costs down but at the moment supply and demand pushes the costs up

mrginge

Sometimes i think we should just abolish the welfare state altogether. Stick half the money into policing to control these scumbags and give the rest back to those of us who have respect for society.

tim123456789

E.L.James wrote: »

Yes I do, do you? Min wage compared with average rents in London is now the furthest out of whack than at any time in history.

people on minimum wage have never been able to afford average London rentals so that comparison is meaningless

tim

witchy1066

E.L.James

my partner is an ex fireman, he now works every hour he can on minimum wage so we can buy a suitable home for our retirement but its hard work and he's not really happy doing it , its not the kind of job he thought he would be doing after the MOD deemed him on the scrapheap
so.....

can you Please post your address and holiday dates , so ourselves and a few friends of ours in a similer situation can come a squat at your place , we can then change the locks and when you come home you and your family can go squat in some random empty property that you fancy,
we are clean, but one of our friends has 6 dogs but I am sure it will ok
look forward to you posting your details, perhaps a few other of the hard working , under valued , minimum wage members would like to join us , perhaps you know when your neighbours are going away and we can post it on FB , after all its not like it really matters is it because they can find another property to call home out of the millions of empty houses across the country,

JencParker

mrginge wrote: »

Sometimes i think we should just abolish the welfare state altogether. Stick half the money into policing to control these scumbags and give the rest back to those of us who have respect for society.

Oh, you mean those who make money out of the rest of society and make the most of every tax loophole available.

Scumbags come in many guises!

Angelicdevil

JencParker wrote: »

Oh, you mean those who make money out of the rest of society and make the most of every tax loophole available.

Scumbags come in many guises!

Oh, those scumbags who take risks and start businesses that then employ people who aren't entrepreneurial enough to do it themselves?

brit1234

I do have a problem with thousands of newbuild flats being bought by foreign investors and left permanently empty. I have no issue with squatting in those.

I don't condone squatters moving into peoples homes who are on holiday, that is plain wrong. Its not black and white issuse but down to morality.