After the Work Programme

donnajunkie

stix62 wrote: »

I've just phoned up to sign off and refused to tell JCP who my new employer was. The girl on the other end of the line said she needs to 'put something down'

i would have just said well i am ending my claim and wont be turning up to sign anymore. you cant make me keep my claim open just because i wont tell you why i am ending it.

sensibleadvice

Podge52 wrote: »

"Why be selective"

What a stupid comment.

Should I be selective in choosing not to apply for driving jobs if I have no driving license ?

Should I be selective in not applying for nursing jobs if I have no nursing qualifications ?

Should I be selective in not applying for........

for somebody who is supposed to be sensible I see very little evidence of it in your posts in this thread.

Your comments are the stupid ones. Nit picking over spurious examples doesn't invalidate the point.

How can someone long term unemployed selectively exclude themselves from ALL office jobs. Keep making excuses on irrelevant examples if you must, just shows you're unable to answer the point.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

some just arent cut out for certain types of job. anyway it would take more than a basic computer course to give me a chance of a job in that area. the mentality is stupid. on the wp they were sending people with no experience of building sites to get their cscs card thinking that will mean they can get a job on a building site ahead of people with 20 years experience.

Labouring jobs don't need much experience and cscs would allow many to apply for such jobs. Cue spurious examples...what about a one armed blind person.

Claiming you're not cut out for certain jobs means you're not considering any and all options, therefore not fully committed.

Hopefully the changes will go some way to rectifying attitudes like this.

stix62

donnajunkie wrote: »

i would have just said well i am ending my claim and wont be turning up to sign anymore. you cant make me keep my claim open just because i wont tell you why i am ending it.

I could have done that, but then I wouldn't have got my chance to slag the WP off to a JC worker.

...besides, she was pleasant enough on the other end so no need to make it a You v Me affair

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

its about knowing whats right for you. most people arent capable of doing every type of job.

After a certain period it's about applying for any job you could potentially do. As you well know.

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Labouring jobs don't need much experience and cscs would allow many to apply for such jobs. Cue spurious examples...what about a one armed blind person.

Claiming you're not cut out for certain jobs means you're not considering any and all options, therefore not fully committed.

Hopefully the changes will go some way to rectifying attitudes like this.

the large majority of building site jobs i come across in my searchs require more than a cscs card.

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

After a certain period it's about applying for any job you could potentially do. As you well know.

that is what i do.

stix62

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Labouring jobs don't need much experience and cscs would allow many to apply for such jobs. ......

How do you get a cscs card if you're unemployed or have no recent experience,,, or any at all?

I ask because I see a lot of jobs requiring cscs and from what I gather you can only get them if already employed - or is that wrong? The only other way I could imagine would be through training (a college course maybe - something 'building' related)?

melysion

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Claiming you're not cut out for certain jobs means you're not considering any and all options, therefore not fully committed.

Hopefully the changes will go some way to rectifying attitudes like this.

Hmm. I agree with you but only to a point. Not all jobs suit every person. I know from experience that I'll be bloody awful working in a burger joint (I worked in McDonald's for ... well let's just say we had a parting of the ways within 2 weeks) and there's no way in God's green earth I'd do that again for no other reason than I'd be rubbish and find myself out on my ear again in no time flat!

However. I'd have a go at pretty much anything else - I've done cleaning in a factory, working in a canteen and I've also worked in a bookstore. I've never done basic office administration type work but I can't imagine that being too difficult. It is best to be flexible - grab any job you can and then concentrate your efforts on the one you actually want long term.

Hence it is important to be open to almost anything until you are actually employed.

lakes17

stix62 wrote: »

Well, my 2 years with WP is due end of April/May (I think) and hopefully I will never be speaking to them again. I had an interview this morning - start work on monday :D:D

I've just phoned up to sign off and refused to tell JCP who my new employer was. The girl on the other end of the line said she needs to 'put something down' so I gave her a host of reasons why I wasn't going to tell her - because of the WP and the way they operate. She didn't know they needed an employers info to make a claim and was quite happy to write 'prefers not to say'


sidenote: I last saw WP 4 weeks ago. When I left my advisor said she'd ring me next week and book our next appointment. I've not heard a thing since.

Well done I'm really pleased for you. What sort of work is it and how long have you been out of work, if you don't mind me asking?