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  • Quite so. Beggars belief why some claimants think there's no conditionality attached to the money.

    You are the one claiming its free money
  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    edited 7 February 2014 at 1:07AM
    There are many reasons why people become long term unemployed. In some cases it is due to bad attitude but you can't tar everyone with that brush, no matter how much you want to sensibleadvice.

    Age discrimination is rife. Anyone over the age of 50 has virtually no chance of getting another job due to nothing other than their age. Being overqualified is another barrier difficult to overcome. Oh sure, one can dumb down their cv but what do you put in its place? How would I, for example, explain away my PhD and postdoc work spanning the last 15 years? Pretend I work in Asda? What would I do for a reference seeing as my only referees are my PhD supervisor and current line manager who is a university professor.

    And these are not excuses. These are real life actual barriers. In my case, I am in the middle of a career change (due to the fact that there's simply no funding for my branch of science anymore) and thankfully that change requires someone with my qualifications but that's not a route open to everyone.

    Also bear in mind there is a serious shortage of jobs. Here's hoping that will soon change but it's dire at the moment.
  • stix62 wrote: »
    You know, the more you repeat something doesn't make it right ;)

    Plus the fact that there's so few jobs around in comparison to those seeking a job
    And the constant demonisation of people on benefits
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    stix62 wrote: »
    And of course, how many do you apply for that say..'If you have not heard from us by such and such a date please assume you have been unsuccessful in your application.' etc etc.
    I chase all jobs even if they say that but this one I only applied to 3 days ago and its still on LinkedIn
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  • stix62
    stix62 Posts: 1,021 Forumite
    edited 7 February 2014 at 12:42AM
    melysion wrote: »
    ..
    Age discrimination is rife. Anyone over the age of 50 has virtually no chance of getting another job due to nothing other than their age......

    :eek: Oh hell, I'm doomed :D


    It doesn't bother me at all,,, until I walk into a place for an interview and i'm probably at least 20 years older than everyone else there.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite

    Are you seriously suggesting no interview in 500 applications?
    Not a suggestion it's a fact.
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  • wudzy
    wudzy Posts: 13 Forumite
    Doesn't need to be made right when it's right to start with.

    As long as the underlying reason not acknowledged the results will stay the same, as the system blamers keep evidencing whilst others around them succeed.



    sensibleadvice you are a pure 100% idoit and talk like an MP out of your backside, you probably have no idea what these lame courses consist of, or how useless they truly are, I think you are on here as a wind up, live in a perfect world bubble or your sniffing glue!!
    it seems that everyone on here has the same experience and opinion about these noddy courses and what a waste of money and resources they are to the tax payer, the only way to lower the number of unemployed people is to create jobs, not courses that lead to no jobs,
    This country will soon be divided into the have's and have nots, slave labour will only create more crime because lets be honest even if someone gets caught committing a crime all that will happen to them is community work i.e working for benefits!!
  • Lith
    Lith Posts: 897 Forumite
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    If any of you lot... really cant stand this..... why don't you just claim housing Benefit and NOT JSA? that way you avoid all the b0ll0cks of the WP


    My brother will be doing this. no more BS WP/JSA he will get housing benefits for his new flat, and use the money for rent/bill - its tight... but better than being on the JSA.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    Lith wrote: »
    If any of you lot... really cant stand this..... why don't you just claim housing Benefit and NOT JSA? that way you avoid all the b0ll0cks of the WP


    My brother will be doing this. no more BS WP/JSA he will get housing benefits for his new flat, and use the money for rent/bill - its tight... but better than being on the JSA.
    Some of us don't get housing and no sure how you live on just housing benefit if that's paying your rent
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  • Lith
    Lith Posts: 897 Forumite
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    AP007 wrote: »
    Some of us don't get housing and no sure how you live on just housing benefit if that's paying your rent

    It's possible... JSA needs to be scrapped or give us a new age limit


    JSA only for 25 year olds.....

    IF ONLY
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