After the Work Programme

sensibleadvice

stix62 wrote: »

This 'negative mindset' is brought on by the likes of the Work Program.

When I first went along I was looking forward to it because I was under the misapprehension it might actually help get me back into work. I actually believed some of the sales pitch they were throwing out.
When you realise there is nothing they can do for you and their 'pitch' was a pack of lies, are you supposed to feel enthused?

What have you done for yourself?

sniggings

stix62 wrote: »

This 'negative mindset' is brought on by the likes of the Work Program.

When I first went along I was looking forward to it because I was under the misapprehension it might actually help get me back into work. I actually believed some of the sales pitch they were throwing out.
When you realise there is nothing they can do for you and their 'pitch' was a pack of lies, are you supposed to feel enthused?

On my appointments, get asked the usual question of "what help do you need" I always say "have you any leads for jobs" the answer is always no, yet that was what we were promised at the start, so the options are, CV training, interview training, that's it, so I just say thanks and leave, tas I've done those courses, that's how all my appointments have gone, and they get paid a load of this, it would be funny if it wasn't the tax payers money paying for this.

Luckily I have just got a job, found the lead myself, yet they are all excited as they know they will get a bonus and I was told, "you know you still HAVE to keep in touch whilst working" I just smiled :rotfl:

Podge52

sensibleadvice wrote: »

That's my observation, long term claimants adamant that the cause of their unemployment and finding work lies with someone else. Negative post wp experiences expecting others to sort their problems as you've evidenced here.

Why shouldn't the long term unemployed take responsibility for their own situation?

I,ll ask you again.

Should people lie and say they had a great experience? A simple yes or no will suffice.

sensibleadvice

Podge52 wrote: »

I,ll ask you again.

Should people lie and say they had a great experience? A simple yes or no will suffice.

No.

I'll ask you again.

Why shouldn't the long term unemployed take responsibility for their own situation?

stix62

sensibleadvice wrote: »

What have you done for yourself?

Everything I don't need the work programs help to do.
One of which was I got a job.

Podge52

sensibleadvice wrote: »

No.

I'll ask you again.

Why shouldn't the long term unemployed take responsibility for their own situation?

I think they do take responsibility for their own situation.

You're assuming that because they criticize a wholly inadequate system that they are not.

sniggings

sensibleadvice wrote: »

No.

I'll ask you again.

Why shouldn't the long term unemployed take responsibility for their own situation?

what form would this responsiblity take?

Podge52

stix62 wrote: »

Everything I don't need the work programs help to do.
One of which was I got a job.

Me too.

stix62

sensibleadvice wrote: »

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Why shouldn't the long term unemployed take responsibility for their own situation?

How is being forced onto a program for two years you have no need of or faith in taking responsibility?!?!

imatt

sensibleadvice wrote: »

No.

I'll ask you again.

Why shouldn't the long term unemployed take responsibility for their own situation?

In effect what you are doing is saying the WP is superfluous to the needs of the average jobseeker and is a scandalous waste of £5 Billion. Not to mention its previous failing inccarnations such as New and Flexible New Deal.

You are being very repetitive and sound like a fourth rate self help manual.