Asda tax issues

bocadillo

scuddy wrote: »

Everyone should certainly be querying the amounts owed with HMRC,

Have you ever heard it said that there is none so deaf as those who don't want to hear? There really is no reason to query what you can so easily work out for yourself.

tattycath

Apparently you should have until 31st January 2014 to pay the bill if you can't have your tax code adjusted to pay it through wages. If you can't afford to pay in in one go you can pay in instalments.
The overpayment has nothing to do with the bonus payment received in feb/march 2013. It is because there were 14 payroll payments in the last tax year and the company only worked out the tax payments for the usual 13 payments a year.
If you are due a rebate (for the fact that you wash your uniform at home) that can be offset to lower what you owe HMRC instead of having a cheque.

bocadillo

jem16 wrote: »

Querying the amount is probably unnecessary unless it is very different from what is being talked about on here.

I work for ASDA and for reasons I perfectly well understand, I have not had a letter from HMRC. I feel excluded. Should I be contacting the GMB so that they can contact HMRC to find out why and negotiate with ASDA on the subject?
:think:

jem16

bocadillo wrote: »

I work for ASDA and for reasons I perfectly well understand, I have not had a letter from HMRC. I feel excluded. Should I be contacting the GMB so that they can contact HMRC to find out why and negotiate with ASDA on the subject?
:think:

No, I think you should complain to the GMB that Asda has not paid you enough to cause this underpayment and that you want a payrise.

bocadillo

tattycath wrote: »

The overpayment [...] is because there were 14 payroll payments in the last tax year and the company only worked out the tax payments for the usual 13 payments a year.

This seems to suggest that you believe the company erred. It has already been established that they did exactly what HMRC instructed them to do, viz gave an additional tax-free allowance, equal to one-thirteenth of the year's total, in the 14th month. It is the tax that should otherwise have been paid on this amount that must be repaid.

scuddy

jem16 wrote: »

The only way Asda is likely to help is to give workers a loan via their wages which they will then deduct a certain amount each payday. This is likely to start from now as opposed to April 2014 when HMRC will start collecting the underpayments.

I would think it would be better to say;

1. If the amount can be coded out (HMRC will have made this clear in their P800) then leave it to HMRC.

2. If the amount cannot be coded out and full repayment is requested by August, then contact your union rep if you feel it will cause financial difficulties.



Dori2o works for HMRC. He's told people who to ask for when ringing rather than just speak to the call centre. Perhaps they should try that first and if they still get nowhere then write to HMRC if they still get nowhere.

Querying the amount is probably unnecessary unless it is very different from what is being talked about on here.

I would agree with the majority of that. I would say though, its is probably worth finding out what the arrangement will be for help will be for all colleagues. It may be better than HMRC can provide.

For those asking why should colleagues question the amount, some colleagues are reporting tax demands of excess £600.00, One has had 3 different letters with 3 different amounts on, for the same period and the same person. I think it's fair to say that some errors somewhere are being made, even colleagues who earn less than the tax allowance have been sent demands, so its worth checking.

scuddy

bocadillo wrote: »

I work for ASDA and for reasons I perfectly well understand, I have not had a letter from HMRC. I feel excluded. Should I be contacting the GMB so that they can contact HMRC to find out why and negotiate with ASDA on the subject?
:think:

No.

Unless of course you are a GMB member and have any other issues in your place of work, that you require representation for.

Thanks

jem16

scuddy wrote: »

I would agree with the majority of that. I would say though, its is probably worth finding out what the arrangement will be for help will be for all colleagues. It may be better than HMRC can provide.

Possibly, although I doubt it to be honest. Asda is very unlikely to give a loan now and not want payment till April 2014 through to April 2015. Some people can even have a longer repayment schedule.

For those asking why should colleagues question the amount, some colleagues are reporting tax demands of excess £600.00,

In cases like that, there will be another reason on top of the Week 56 underpayment.

One has had 3 different letters with 3 different amounts on, for the same period and the same person.

I would certainly hope it's for the same person! However P800s can be sent out for previous tax years and it's the final P800 that gives the overall figure. Often it looks like it's for the same period but isn't.

I think it's fair to say that some errors somewhere are being made,

It's not completely impossible for an error to be made but the 2 examples you have given so far don't necessarily point to errors.

even colleagues who earn less than the tax allowance have been sent demands, so its worth checking.

Again perfectly possible. With 13 payments they could well be below the personal allowance. However the 14th payment may well have pushed them over the limit.

Yes it's always worth checking but most people can do this themselves by checking the P60 figures. This should be done first and no need to query the amount unless you can't reconcile the figures yourself.

In fact they could even post on the Tax forum here.

tattycath

bocadillo wrote: »

This seems to suggest that you believe the company erred. It has already been established that they did exactly what HMRC instructed them to do, viz gave an additional tax-free allowance, equal to one-thirteenth of the year's total, in the 14th month. It is the tax that should otherwise have been paid on this amount that must be repaid.

Yes. I am aware of that. But the post I made was information direct from HMRC-not that I think the company was right or wrong.

bocadillo

jem16 wrote: »

No, I think you should complain to the GMB that Asda has not paid you enough to cause this underpayment and that you want a payrise.

Sorry, Jem - but no points for your incorrect supposition. There is certainly an argument that ASDA does not pay me enough but that is for another time. It is a fact though that I do pay tax; that ASDA followed the HMRC week 56 instructions in making its calculations in the relevant month and indeed has made the correct calculations every month during the year; and that no underpayment has resulted.

I still feel excluded and have little to talk about in the canteen at the moment.