been sanctioned YET AGAIN

CookieMonsta

"Reasons I dont apply for carer, I'm not that way inclined. Washing / cleaning someone, frankly thats a job for a women in the right mind set, but then again even my mother whos had 7 kids WOULDN'T do that job."

"then of course you have all the immigrants coming into the country and immediately getting benefits, and taking low paid jobs, jobs which the british person can't take because being british they have the minimum payment which i believe is something like £5.50 a hour, whereas immigrants can be paid as little as £2 a hour."

Andy2004, I think you need an attitude adjustment because these are excuses which demean people who are working; the people who pay your JSA in fact.

kelpie35

I have no sympathy for you OP.

Do you think society owes you something?

You want money from the government, so abide by the rules, and you will be reimbursed for doing so.

gb12345

kelpie35 wrote: »

I have no sympathy for you OP.

Do you think society owes you something?

You want money from the government, so abide by the rules, and you will be reimbursed for doing so.

Come on be fair, it must be difficult for the OP being a long-term [STRIKE]benefit scrounger[/STRIKE] unemployed.

Get up late morning, watch Jezza on his 100" Plasma, spend the afternoon in the pub. How is he going to stand a chance of finding a job with a busy schedule like that.

kelpie35

gb12345 wrote: »

Come on be fair, it must be difficult for the OP being a long-term [STRIKE]benefit scrounger[/STRIKE] unemployed.

Get up late morning, watch Jezza on his 100" Plasma, spend the afternoon in the pub. How is he going to stand a chance of finding a job with a busy schedule like that.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

patman99

OP sounds just like my mate's 2 lads. Both are in their mid-20's. 1 worked for 9 years p/t in warehousing before the store shut. He won't look at jobs in a retail park 3 miles out of town as his dad has convinced him that 'it isn't worth it once you take-out the bus fare'.

Jakg

andy2004 wrote: »

WRONG.
i dont apply for jobs for instance a HGV licence, why I have a normal driving licence. I have never taken a driving test in HGV / LGV and i have no tac reading.

I dont apply for jobs being a Manager why I've been unemployed a long time and my work experience is properly about 1month.
even though under new deal I was self employed as a market trader and it was my job to order stock, pay for it, price it, and then sell it and get the stall etc.

Reasons I dont apply for carer, I'm not that way inclined. Washing / cleaning someone, frankly thats a job for a women in the right mind set, but then again even my mother whos had 7 kids WOULDN'T do that job.

I've applied to be sales assistant in pretty much all the common big shops, asda, tesco's, lidl, aldi, iceland, morrisons, sainbury's, etc, and smaller ones, i've registered with numerous agency's and never heard any back.
There are also certain jobs you can't apply for unless you have the card building industry CSSC or something. which you have to pay for it costs £60 a year i believe, every year.

I personally believe the government is at fault in given the jobcentre who's job isn't to get people back into work as they would have you believe but to help people claim whatever benefits people are entitled to.
Put it this way, ask a jobcentre adviser what there job actually is and they we'll tell you its not their job to get you back into work, even though when you go to the jobcentre you'll hear them tell each other how they got this and that person back into work.
many a time i've heard them tell other people its 99.9% YOU that other 0.1% is us giving you information.
given you access to certain tests for free, which next time you'll have to pay for. etc.
Funny it used to be the jobcentre was there to get you the unemployed BACK INTO WORK, but you see thats why the government started paying others A4E etc to do it for them.
The government needs to rethink about given the jobcentre more authority, and about allowing them to sanction people, ITS NOT THE JOBCENTRES JOB TO SANCTION.
I love it when they say its not them sanctioning you but someone in a office where they send your jobsearch to that "they" belive isnt good enough and its that person you never see who decides.
They dont know you, they know nothing about you. And in this day and age NO ONE should be sanctioned.
Maybe the government should think about saving money, instead of given themselves £7000+ pay rises, <equal to 2 years of jsa for most people. if of course they get paid anything.
then of course you have all the immigrants coming into the country and immediately getting benefits, and taking low paid jobs, jobs which the british person can't take because being british they have the minimum payment which i believe is something like £5.50 a hour, whereas immigrants can be paid as little as £2 a hour.

Wow. Just wow.

andy2004

LittleVoice wrote: »

The purpose for starting this thread was not to get any useful advice or answer questions which might lead to sensible actions but is here so that Andy can whinge about things, proving how unsuitable they are for work and should just be financially supported in the life to which they have become accustomed.

Bye.

LittleVoice should keep her mouth shut unless she has anything USEFUL to say.
Guess littlevoice never watched the bbc1 program last thursday Nick and Margaret about people on benefits.
and also believes that £71 a week is enough to live on, LOL,
2 words TRY IT. especially when the jobcentre stop that, for whatever period making you use the current money you got in your pocket last even longer. Now if you know what the jobcentres really like and not the BS you hear about on TV, you'll know that when your on benefits you have to keep back what you can for when you do get sanctioned. Just so that you have enough to pay your rent for the amount of time your sanctioned for, and not for anything else.
you can forget about going out and doing all the things you currently like doing. going somewhere for the day and enjoying yourself.
I dont smoke, drink, go out, i was 15 last time i went to the cinema, I dont speak to my friends cause frankly if we where to go out they'd be buying the drinks, and thats not fair on them.

I want a job so i dont have to go to the jobcentre and speak to those " " cant think of a nice word to describe the so called advisors. They've never advised me on anything.
I dont even want to look at them cause when i do the thoughts i have going threw my head, well think of horror movie.
lets just say when i sign luckily i'm in the screened area, which they open up just for me and 1 other person, it seems.
and it takes all my strength to hold myself back even in speech.
one day i'm going to crack and god help the person then.

guess no one every told you if you cant say anything nice or helpful they dont open your mouth or in this case TYPE.
I came on here to ask for how to take LEGAL action against the jobcentre, for the past year, every month they have been trying to find a way to stop my benefits they've obviously classed me as a EASY TARGET. I'm fed up with them, my mum is fed up with them, as far as the jobcentre is concerned if they stop my benefits then SHE can pay my bills, cause if she goes to the jobcentre to complain they will just tell her its got nothing to do with her.

I've contacted my so called OMBUDSMEN MP david willets, but its seems according to the jobcentre that he is all for the jobcentre to stop peoples benefits, and that he would be in told agreement with what they are doing.
They are making my life a nightmare, they are not helping me in any shape of form to get out of my current situation and back into work.

Now as yet NO ONE has responded with any useful information about who I should contact.
And god forbid the jobcentre every sanction anyone for the max 3 years they are able to thanks to the new rules brought out by the tories.

Note: I was brought up with a simple rule of life, Apply for jobs you can do, as these no point in applying for jobs you cant. You'll be wasting your time, their time the employers, and if you every did manage to get enough experience to do the jobs you couldnt do when you first applied for them and that person remembers that could be a reason for them NOT taking you on.

andy2004

patman99 wrote: »

OP sounds just like my mate's 2 lads. Both are in their mid-20's. 1 worked for 9 years p/t in warehousing before the store shut. He won't look at jobs in a retail park 3 miles out of town as his dad has convinced him that 'it isn't worth it once you take-out the bus fare'.

Depends on the amount he would earn, - cost of getting there, as you said P/T, not fulltime. I dont have any idea on bus fares these days.
3miles each way, probably looking at £10-12, so if the job is for 2hrs a day, then he'd problably be working for £6.50 a hour so for the 2 hrs work he be looking at what £1 wages.

Bus's where i live always seem to be never on time.
I still remember the time i waited 40minutes for a bus yet on the side of the bus is says 1 every 10minutes
I still remember paying 70p for a round trip to the jobcente, when of course went upto £1.50 over time, Think i was told by A4E is the same trip would now cost £2.50-3
short journey, in bad weather you wouldnt want to walk it, when its HOT like currently it could take you twice as long. and if your out of shape even longer.

RichardD1970

andy2004 wrote: »

LittleVoice should keep her mouth shut unless she has anything USEFUL to say.

I want a job so i dont have to go to the jobcentre and speak to those " " cant think of a nice word to describe the so called advisors. They've never advised me on anything.
I dont even want to look at them cause when i do the thoughts i have going threw my head, well think of horror movie.
lets just say when i sign luckily i'm in the screened area, which they open up just for me and 1 other person, it seems.
and it takes all my strength to hold myself back even in speech.
one day i'm going to crack and god help the person then.

Well I guess that puts the (purely innocent) comments about job centre staff having acid thrown in their faces in context.


I've contacted my so called OMBUDSMEN MP david willets, but its seems according to the jobcentre that he is all for the jobcentre to stop peoples benefits, and that he would be in told agreement with what they are doing.
They are making my life a nightmare, they are not helping me in any shape of form to get out of my current situation and back into work.

Now as yet NO ONE has responded with any useful information about who I should contact.
And god forbid the jobcentre every sanction anyone for the max 3 years they are able to thanks to the new rules brought out by the tories.

Note: I was brought up with a simple rule of life, Apply for jobs you can do, as these no point in applying for jobs you cant. You'll be wasting your time, their time the employers, and if you every did manage to get enough experience to do the jobs you couldnt do when you first applied for them and that person remembers that could be a reason for them NOT taking you on.

But as people have already pointed out, you have to apply for all the jobs. it doesn't matter if you can do them.

APPLY.

If you don't have the skills or experience then you won't make the interviews, but that doesn't matter, you have fulfilled your obligation.

AGAIN...

It is their game, they make the rules, you either play by them or don't.

THE CHOICE IS YOURS!

jacques_chirac

andy2004 wrote: »

LittleVoice should keep her mouth shut unless she has anything USEFUL to say.
Guess littlevoice never watched the bbc1 program last thursday Nick and Margaret about people on benefits.
and also believes that £71 a week is enough to live on, LOL,
2 words TRY IT. especially when the jobcentre stop that, for whatever period making you use the current money you got in your pocket last even longer. Now if you know what the jobcentres really like and not the BS you hear about on TV, you'll know that when your on benefits you have to keep back what you can for when you do get sanctioned. Just so that you have enough to pay your rent for the amount of time your sanctioned for, and not for anything else.
you can forget about going out and doing all the things you currently like doing. going somewhere for the day and enjoying yourself.
I dont smoke, drink, go out, i was 15 last time i went to the cinema, I dont speak to my friends cause frankly if we where to go out they'd be buying the drinks, and thats not fair on them.

I want a job so i dont have to go to the jobcentre and speak to those " " cant think of a nice word to describe the so called advisors. They've never advised me on anything.
I dont even want to look at them cause when i do the thoughts i have going threw my head, well think of horror movie.
lets just say when i sign luckily i'm in the screened area, which they open up just for me and 1 other person, it seems.
and it takes all my strength to hold myself back even in speech.
one day i'm going to crack and god help the person then.

guess no one every told you if you cant say anything nice or helpful they dont open your mouth or in this case TYPE.
I came on here to ask for how to take LEGAL action against the jobcentre, for the past year, every month they have been trying to find a way to stop my benefits they've obviously classed me as a EASY TARGET. I'm fed up with them, my mum is fed up with them, as far as the jobcentre is concerned if they stop my benefits then SHE can pay my bills, cause if she goes to the jobcentre to complain they will just tell her its got nothing to do with her.

I've contacted my so called OMBUDSMEN MP david willets, but its seems according to the jobcentre that he is all for the jobcentre to stop peoples benefits, and that he would be in told agreement with what they are doing.
They are making my life a nightmare, they are not helping me in any shape of form to get out of my current situation and back into work.

Now as yet NO ONE has responded with any useful information about who I should contact.
And god forbid the jobcentre every sanction anyone for the max 3 years they are able to thanks to the new rules brought out by the tories.

Note: I was brought up with a simple rule of life, Apply for jobs you can do, as these no point in applying for jobs you cant. You'll be wasting your time, their time the employers, and if you every did manage to get enough experience to do the jobs you couldnt do when you first applied for them and that person remembers that could be a reason for them NOT taking you on.

Your attitude stinks. You tell other people they should keep their mouth shut if they can't say anything nice, yet you proceed to post vitriol about Jobcentre staff, or anyone that disagrees with you.

You need to learn to control your anger, and you need to change the way you deal with people. You are going to end up in prison if you continue in this way.

No one is suggesting you apply to be a brain surgeon, but it is clear that you do not understand the difference between can't and won't. You should be applying for every entry level job, irrespective of whether you feel it is beneath you or not.