i found hidden drugs

Soubrette

FatVonD wrote: »

But how many have died from drinking tea? That is the point I'm arguing, not any of the others.

Probably about the same as the number of people who died directly from smoking cannabis. (I found one guy on the internet who had had multiple strokes after smoking cannabis due to an allergic reaction but he survived, I assume he had the sense to stop after the second reaction!)

You can die of a water overdose but you'd have to drink litres of tea in a short amount of time for that to happen. Ovbviously it is not the tea per se that killed you though, it would be the water.

Personally I don't like tea but I do like coffee. I accept I'm a mild drug user but I believe I have it under control I think this was the point of the original post rather than whether tea is as harmful as the worst possible drug we can think of. Most of us are drug users to a greater or lesser extent but we tend not to classify our drugs of choice as drugs.

I find the phrase drugs and alcohol ludicrous - alcohol is a drug. Similarly when celebrities assure us they were only addicted to prescription drugs - some prescription drugs can be quite nasty.

Mojisola

19lottie82 wrote: »

however, I think the example of people dying from "fake" ecstacy, is a great example of why it should be legalised, as I discussed earlier

I think the current banned drugs should be legalised, too, in order to cut out the criminals.

Unless they're buying a bit of weed from a mate who grows it at home, drug users are supporting an evil trade. The people involved in getting drugs to the streets cause untold misery to many, many people in the process.

I know people who are very careful when they shop - buying FairTrade and other ethically-sourced items - but they think nothing of supporting the drug cartels and other criminals in order to get high.

19lottie82

Mojisola wrote: »

Unless they're buying a bit of weed from a mate who grows it at home, drug users are supporting an evil trade. The people involved in getting drugs to the streets cause untold misery to many, many people in the process.

Very true.

georgie262

mrs_angry wrote: »

Hi all, im looking for some advice AGAIN
about 15 months ago I found a small bag of white powder in my husbands coat pocket, I asked him what it was and why he had it, and he just said im keeping it for someone else. it wasn't a large amount at all
15 months on and whilst looking for some painkillers in his works bag I found a pill pot which had a small plastic bag in it full of a white powder.
I have taken this bag out of the pill pot and got rid of it and thought I would wait for when he looks for it and finds it missing before I confront him over this.
BUT what would you do if you found a bag of drugs in your husbands work bag? which was obviously hidden. im interested to know because I don't know how to tackle this at all, I am totally against drugs and cant believe my husband would have them in his bag let alone keep yet another secret from me.
thanks for reading it will be good to have some advise because obviously this is messing with my head!
would you keep quiet like me and sit and wait
or would you confront him?

I have only read your first post but I knew someone in your exact situation. Guy in DH's work was 'seeing' other (multiple) women at work - had a massive coke habit that the wife knew nothing about. I can remember thinking 'How can she not know'. I met the wife at a wedding once and felt so, so sorry for her as the girls he was sleeping with were also there and she looked like she had no clue.

Sorry just realised this conversation is different to how it started now :P Drugs Bad! Tree Pretty

bitemebankers

FatVonD wrote: »

As I said before, I'm merely pointing out how ludicrous it is to suggest that tea and hard drugs are one and the same.

Please point out where I said that?

What I said, in response to your question, was that the age limit for all recreational psychoactive drugs should be the same, at 18. That includes ecstasy and drugs that are much more dangerous than ecstasy such as alcohol, and less dangerous, like caffeine and khat.

You've jumped to the erroneous conclusion that I'm equating them in other ways. When you say:

But how many have died from drinking tea? That is the point I'm arguing, not any of the others.

It shows how you've completely missed the point and and are trying to argue against a claim nobody has actually made.

Joons

georgie262 wrote: »

I have only read your first post but I knew someone in your exact situation. Guy in DH's work was 'seeing' other (multiple) women at work - had a massive coke habit that the wife knew nothing about. I can remember thinking 'How can she not know'. I met the wife at a wedding once and felt so, so sorry for her as the girls he was sleeping with were also there and she looked like she had no clue.

Sorry just realised this conversation is different to how it started now :P Drugs Bad! Tree Pretty

I still find it astounding how someone can hurt so much the one person they are supposed to care about in the world, nasty, nasty man, I hope he's miserable now.

Joons

Mojisola wrote: »

I think the current banned drugs should be legalised, too, in order to cut out the criminals.

Unless they're buying a bit of weed from a mate who grows it at home, drug users are supporting an evil trade. The people involved in getting drugs to the streets cause untold misery to many, many people in the process.

I know people who are very careful when they shop - buying FairTrade and other ethically-sourced items - but they think nothing of supporting the drug cartels and other criminals in order to get high.

Well said.

FatVonD

bitemebankers wrote: »

Please point out where I said that?

What I said, in response to your question, was that the age limit for all recreational psychoactive drugs should be the same, at 18. That includes ecstasy and drugs that are much more dangerous than ecstasy such as alcohol, and less dangerous, like caffeine and khat.

You've jumped to the erroneous conclusion that I'm equating them in other ways. When you say:



It shows how you've completely missed the point and and are trying to argue against a claim nobody has actually made.

I'm arguing against the inference that because people drink tea they have no right to be anti recreational hard drugs.

FatVonD

bitemebankers wrote: »

That's exactly what it is. Caffeine is a drug.



Pointing out your flat denial about your own drug use is hardly grasping at straws. On the contrary, it drives to the heart of the issue here, namely that people tend to view the drugs they're most familiar with as safe, and any other less familiar drugs as dangerous.

This was the post that prompted me to rejoin the thread.

Soubrette

FatVonD wrote: »

I'm arguing against the inference that because people drink tea they have no right to be anti recreational hard drugs.

Ahh, I thought you were merely arguing that tea was less dangerous than heroin

I think one of the things that would interest me in your argument as stated above - what classification would you use for a hard drug?