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  • System
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    Just to add my bit.

    My son managed to kick heroin but substituted his addiction with alcohol.

    As a recovering alcoholic, he says his fight with alcohol is a lot harder than heroin ever was.
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  • pelirocco
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    aileth wrote: »
    I am certainly no 'drug' advocate, but I do think that a lot of the dangerousness of the illegal drugs, cocaine, ecstasy etc, and deaths come from what it's cut with. The people who produce and sell them can cut them with really dangerous, nasty stuff, and the people who buy them are clueless and probably don't care about it.

    Now, I'm sure legalisation would get some sort of a handle on the harmful cutting, but even legalised there will be some bloke in a back alley selling pills a third less than the Government, and chances are an addict will buy from them as they are saving money.

    It's very contentious.


    You should care more about what happens to other people as a result of someone taking drugs , then what happens to the drug user if whatever they are taking is 'contaminated'

    The knock on effect is probably more tragic then the direct affect .

    Try asking someone close to a drug addict whether they think legalising drugs is a way foreward
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  • Joons
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    Did anyone see that programme about the cannibas factories, apparently Scotland esp is rife with them; the gangs bring over poor Vietnamese people promising them a better life and then basically lock them up in these factories to monitor the plants with no food, no payment and are abused constantly - I was shocked, this is happening here right outside our doors.
  • Joons
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    I reckon legalising some drugs would be helpful, it would stamp out the above and it would crush the big drug barons who are making millions but getting other people to get their hands dirty. As has been said, it's what the drugs are cut with that cause the fatalities, not the pure drug itself. As for heroin addicts, replacing it with methadone is not the answer either, it's changing nothing.
  • bitemebankers
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    Dimey wrote: »
    I'm not using tea and coffee as a drug. A cup of tea with breakfast and sometimes a cup of coffee in the afternoon is hardly my dosing myself with drugs.

    That's exactly what it is. Caffeine is a drug.
    I think your[sic] grasping at straws.

    Pointing out your flat denial about your own drug use is hardly grasping at straws. On the contrary, it drives to the heart of the issue here, namely that people tend to view the drugs they're most familiar with as safe, and any other less familiar drugs as dangerous.
    "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom that will be remembered and honoured." --Rt. Hon. Tony Benn
  • bitemebankers
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    pelirocco wrote: »
    You should care more about what happens to other people as a result of someone taking drugs , then what happens to the drug user if whatever they are taking is 'contaminated'

    Why should you? Personally, I care about both.
    Try asking someone close to a drug addict whether they think legalising drugs is a way foreward[sic]

    I've been in that position, and I probably will be in the future. I can't see any compelling argument against legalisation and regulation of all drugs.
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  • System
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    I don't want drugs legalized. Its like telling the youngsters of today that its ok to take them. Theres enough kids of today going to college stoned as it is... and yes ive seen them glassy eyed and falling asleep on the early morning bus.
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  • bitemebankers
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    Judi wrote: »
    Its like telling the youngsters of today that its ok to take them.

    That's assuming they could care less what you or the government thinks in the first place.

    They don't.

    Anyone who wishes to enjoy illegal drugs already does so. The law is no impediment whatsoever.
    "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom that will be remembered and honoured." --Rt. Hon. Tony Benn
  • neverdespairgirl
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    I've seen a lot of the horrible end of drug addiction - in my days in and out of the Magistrates' Courts I had an endless procession of lay client addicted to alcohol, crack, heroin, etc.

    The worst I came across was a 21 year old who had already had one leg amputated at the knee, was heading for a second amputation, and was injecting into his eyeballs because his veins were so dodgy.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • System
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    That's assuming they could care less what you or the government thinks in the first place.

    They don't.

    So that makes it right does it?
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