New Boiler in Loft, different ideas

Leif

Mr_Ted wrote: »

I think I communicate my opinions quite clearly, which are experienced based be it the technicalities or the manner of the respondents,

Well that does not make sense. Did you mean 'experience based', and 'responses' rather than 'respondents'?

Mr_Ted wrote: »

and conflict does not concern me I'm quite happy in my own skin thanks very much If others aren't happy with me not gilding any Lilly, then that's their problem, however as my signature should indicate I WILL respond in kind :beer:

What on earth are you on about?

Mr_Ted wrote: »

I do luv smillies tho :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Have you met cyclonebri1? I think you'd get like a house on fire.

wallbash

Is that a statement or a question?

The question mark came after 'recent' , Without looking it up I can't remember when the regs were introduced.
Solid floor around boiler which makes sense. Its the reg that forces you to supply a guard rail around the loft hatch .......OTT.

Heavy /large , matter of opinion. Most plumbers are not wimps.

Leif

wallbash wrote: »

The question mark came after 'recent' , Without looking it up I can't remember when the regs were introduced.
Solid floor around boiler which makes sense. Its the reg that forces you to supply a guard rail around the loft hatch .......OTT.

Heavy /large , matter of opinion. Most plumbers are not wimps.

Okay. Thanks for the clarification.

I must admit watching a plasterer screw full size plaster boards to my ceilings was astonishing. One hand holds the board against joists, the other hand works the screwdriver.

Mr_Ted

Leif wrote: »

Well that does not make sense. Did you mean 'experience based', and 'responses' rather than 'respondents'?

Quote - respondent = a person who responds or makes reply.
experienced = wise or skillful in a particular field through experience: having learned through experience; taught by experience: experienced through adversity: endured; undergone; suffered through:

You see this is a problem here, to many nit picky stuffed shirts who concentrate on grammar and not the issues

wrote:

What on earth are you on about?

If you don't know, or cant put it in context, don't worry, I'm sure you can find plenty of other issues to nit pick about:p
Now did I miss a comma or an apostrophe anywhere;)

Back to the point in question, and what I have experienced(see past tense)!
Some years back during a severe winter, which we have on ocasions, the whole work force, of a company I worked for, spent about a month, or more almost solely, for 18 hours a day, responding to frozen or burst pipes pretty much all in loft spaces!
I personally spent over a week going back and forth to one particular large period cottage, defrosting pipework, repairing bursts, returning the next day and finding more of the same, in their loft space, AND it was insulated!
Now this didn't actually include any boilers installed in loft spaces, BUT, were often caused by breakdowns in boilers or controls not set to run when they needed to be, and in some instances, even when they were!
Even with frost stats installed, the possibility of a boiler breakdown exists, and a boiler in a loft is NOT protected by insulation!

THINK about the cost of repairs caused by frost damage not only to the installation but water damage through out the property as a result???

Now the question is, DOES ANYONE WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF HAVING TO EXPERIENCE THE POSSIBILITIES:(

As I say, and as SCRGI has also, avoid installing a boiler in a loft unless there is NO other possible alternative!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cyclonebri1

Leif wrote: »

Have you met cyclonebri1? I think you'd get like a house on fire.

OIIIIIIIIh, leave it out, people have different views to you and ask you to clarify them.

You refuse for half a topic then say you are thick skinned and don't care what anyone else thinks?????

You're not a God, (young guns), your views are the same as Leif, mine and anyone elses,

Try respecting them.

And for the record, me and Leif have radically differing points of view, we clash. and have done this weekend, but, I don't mind, and I don't drag other people into my arguments..

The point I really have is that after I dragged the reasons I suspected out of you for not installing the boiler in the loft, ie frost issues, you come up with the same reason, as I suggested to you, and I'm in the wrong? take another pill

Leif

Mr_Ted wrote: »

Quote - respondent = a person who responds or makes reply.
experienced = wise or skillful in a particular field through experience: having learned through experience; taught by experience: experienced through adversity: endured; undergone; suffered through:

You see this is a problem here, to many nit picky stuffed shirts who concentrate on grammar and not the issues

No, you are too lazy to write clearly in a manner that is intelligible. I still don't know what "the manner of the respondents" means.

Leif

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

OIIIIIIIIh, leave it out, people have different views to you and ask you to clarify them.

You refuse for half a topic then say you are thick skinned and don't care what anyone else thinks?????

You're not a God, (young guns), your views are the same as Leif, mine and anyone elses,

Try respecting them.

And for the record, me and Leif have radically differing points of view, we clash. and have done this weekend, but, I don't mind, and I don't drag other people into my arguments..

The point I really have is that after I dragged the reasons I suspected out of you for not installing the boiler in the loft, ie frost issues, you come up with the same reason, as I suggested to you, and I'm in the wrong? take another pill

I think you misunderstood my post (probably my fault). I was making the point that you both make generous use of emoticons, hence you will get on well together. Not worth it was it?

cyclonebri1

Leif wrote: »

I think you misunderstood my post (probably my fault). I was making the point that you both make generous use of emoticons, hence you will get on well together. Not worth it was it?

And was it from your point of view?

Emoticons are to indicate mood?, yes?, whether you are being serious, angry or simply bemused?.



I owe you an apology for reasons you won't get yet, I'll pm you with that, but please don't link me with any other poster on here, I don't take sides simply speak MY mind.;););):A:A:p:p:p:mad::mad::money::money::j:j:beer::beer::(

OH dear

Leif

Mr_Ted wrote: »

Back to the point in question, and what I have experienced(see past tense)!
Some years back during a severe winter, which we have on ocasions, the whole work force, of a company I worked for, spent about a month, or more almost solely, for 18 hours a day, responding to frozen or burst pipes pretty much all in loft spaces!
I personally spent over a week going back and forth to one particular large period cottage, defrosting pipework, repairing bursts, returning the next day and finding more of the same, in their loft space, AND it was insulated!
Now this didn't actually include any boilers installed in loft spaces, BUT, were often caused by breakdowns in boilers or controls not set to run when they needed to be, and in some instances, even when they were!
Even with frost stats installed, the possibility of a boiler breakdown exists, and a boiler in a loft is NOT protected by insulation!

THINK about the cost of repairs caused by frost damage not only to the installation but water damage through out the property as a result???

Now the question is, DOES ANYONE WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF HAVING TO EXPERIENCE THE POSSIBILITIES:(

As I say, and as SCRGI has also, avoid installing a boiler in a loft unless there is NO other possible alternative!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So why didn't you say that in the first place, as it is informative and interesting? What strikes me is that the better the loft insulation, the more likely frost will get in the loft space.

Mr_Ted

Leif wrote: »

So why didn't you say that in the first place, as it is informative and interesting? What strikes me is that the better the loft insulation, the more likely frost will get in the loft space.

1/ Because I have other things in life more important than this place:eek:
2/ Because it gives the pseudo experts time to have their opinions :eek:

Also no one "DRAGGED" it out of me, I have my own mind and respond when I want, and because I am thick skinned particularly if it upsets the impatient, ignorant and rude, you know the types, the REAL " A_R_S_E_S"
As for "GOD" :rotfl: that's a mythical creature, I'm for real, I say stuff for real, AND I can spot a REAL EXPERT from the tosh they spout

and its true the more insulation the colder it will be in the loft space, after all the reason for loft insulation is to stop heat loss from the building through the ceilings, so there is no latent heat from the building to warm it:)

But frost isn't the only reason, the others i gave ARE also relevant

:cool::cool::cool:Don't need "pills" either, Chilled is my middle name(IF ONLY YOU KNEW WHY THAT IS):cool::cool::cool: I let others blow their fuses :rotfl: