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The case for identity cards
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I don't think it matters! The system works, and vehicle crime is kept under control. DVLA successfully manages many millions of vehicle registrations, and many millions of driver licences (with many varying 'terms and conditions').
It is affordable.
I guess it is affordable as they simply ask me for money each year to tax my cars.
Car crime is kept under control because the overwhelming number of drivers are law abiding as are the vest majority of people when it matters."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I assume you are making the assumption that carrying ID cards will be compulsory.
In my view this won't happen in my lifetime: as after 365 days of continuous riots and maybe 100,000 arrests the government of the day will give up and will anyway be unelectable for the next 20 years.
ID cards as evidence to receive specific services are a different animal.
I think lostinrates idea is that we should have a chip implanted into our flesh. There is an increasing clamour for dog-owners to get their pets 'chipped' in a similar way. Dogs, dog-owners, and society at large would all benefit from such a scheme.
TruckerTAccording to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »I guess it is affordable as they simply ask me for money each year to tax my cars.
Car crime is kept under control because the overwhelming number of drivers are law abiding as are the vest majority of people when it matters.
You can obviously afford it then?
I would say that the overwhelming number of drivers are perfectly happy to break the law (especially the speed limits) but they are prevented from doing so by cameras and by DVLA's computer systems.
TruckerTAccording to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.0 -
You can obviously afford it then?
I would say that the overwhelming number of drivers are perfectly happy to break the law (especially the speed limits) but they are prevented from doing so by cameras and by DVLA's computer systems.
TruckerT
Don't have a choice.
The way the roads are these days it is becoming ever more difficult to break the speed limits. Congestion and more particularly potholes where we live.
Do you really think the overriding majority deliberately go out to break the law? Is it really incompetence and many that should not have been granted a license in the first place.
How does a DVLA computer stop me breaking the law or for that matter an ID card?
A policeman in a patrol or unmarked car might."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I think lostinrates idea is that we should have a chip implanted into our flesh. There is an increasing clamour for dog-owners to get their pets 'chipped' in a similar way. Dogs, dog-owners, and society at large would all benefit from such a scheme.
TruckerT
It would certainly help if I got lost;)"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Don't have a choice.
The way the roads are these days it is becoming ever more difficult to break the speed limits. Congestion and more particularly potholes where we live.
Do you really think the overriding majority deliberately go out to break the law? Is it really incompetence and many that should not have been granted a license in the first place.
How does a DVLA computer stop me breaking the law or for that matter an ID card?
A policeman in a patrol or unmarked car might.
Don't have a choice? Surely, that's the point - we all claim to live in a democratic freedom, but we have very little choice in anything.
The DVLA computer assists the policeman to identify wrong-doers.
ID cards (or chips) would serve a similar purpose - and, yes, if the chip were to include GPS and an emergency 'call-for-help' button, then let's just go for it... the sooner the better.
TruckerTAccording to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.0 -
I think lostinrates idea is that we should have a chip implanted into our flesh. There is an increasing clamour for dog-owners to get their pets 'chipped' in a similar way. Dogs, dog-owners, and society at large would all benefit from such a scheme.
TruckerT
Tbc, I'm being tongue in cheek about chips. Sort of.
Horses already are mandatorily pass ported and chipped in this uk.
The whole scheme has been expensive and not well thought out. There was no one central paper keeper....different breed groups and sport governing bodies or similar were allowed to apply to be providers of the passport. Sme of these have now failed.
I understand some sectors of the community simply do not comply with requirement to chip and register.
The horse meat scandal failed to bring to light that many drugs that should be going into the passports simply are not. (Most yards have a box of bite floating a bout giving to who needs it as and when, and no one marks in it the passport)
If I do ever get a chip I hope it's very much more efficient than that. And operates the central heating timer and hopefully the cat flap too.0
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