revert the pension age to 60/65

seven-day-weekend

Dunroamin wrote: »

27, yes - 17, no way!

Absolutely no way would I want to be a teenager again, unless I had the chance to do things very differently.

30s is a nice age.

But I also like being the age I am now, early 60s with good health and enough money.

seven-day-weekend

My son works in Morrisons and more often than not does not work Sundays although he does like doing so when he can because it is more money.

His girlfriend is a kitchen assistant in an old peoples' home and usually works Sundays. The clients still need feeding even though it is Sunday.

Pollycat

mumps wrote: »

I don't think it was a good point as it is not what is going to happen.

You don't know that.
Who knows what is going to happen over the next few years for sure?
Not you.

mumps wrote: »

I don't work for a small organisation.

Sounds like it to me.
I worked for a very large national organisation and I know that our Human Resources Dept (we stopped calling it 'Personnel' years before I retired :cool:) advertised jobs and interviewed prospective candidates (even internally) rather than setting on "friends of our staff" who "are keen to work for us".

mumps wrote: »

You agree with those posters, I agree with the millions of people who choose to work and shop, eat out, go to the pub etc on Sundays.

Not necessarily accurate to say 'choose' - unless you've canvassed each and every one....?.
Not all people who work on Sundays choose to.

Southend1 makes an excellent reply to you in post '80 so I'll say nothing further on the subject of 'choosing to work Sundays'.

mumps wrote: »

You haven't commented, in fact no one who is against Sunday trading has commented, on their own Sunday habits. Out of curiosity have you ever shopped on a Sunday, gone out for a drink or a meal, filled the car up? There are other things like calling your bank, arranging insurance, booked a holiday, ever done any sort of trading?

I don't shop on Sundays - too busy with browsers and kids.
I don't go out for meals on Sundays, I don't actually go out for many meals at all as we prefer to cook ourselves.
I don't fill the car up on Sundays, too many Sunday drivers about.
I book all my holidays on-line so I don't need anyone to be there to help me.
I do all the other stuff you mention during the week.

I do, however, go out for a drink on Sundays. but then again, I've been doing that for the last 40+ years - which was way before Sunday trading as you're discussing it came into being.

mumps

Pollycat wrote: »

You don't know that.
Who knows what is going to happen over the next few years for sure?
Not you.


Sounds like it to me.
I worked for a very large national organisation and I know that our Human Resources Dept (we stopped calling it 'Personnel' years before I retired :cool:) advertised jobs and interviewed prospective candidates (even internally) rather than setting on "friends of our staff" who "are keen to work for us".


Not necessarily accurate to say 'choose' - unless you've canvassed each and every one....?.
Not all people who work on Sundays choose to.

Southend1 makes an excellent reply to you in post '80 so I'll say nothing further on the subject of 'choosing to work Sundays'.



I don't shop on Sundays - too busy with browsers and kids.
I don't go out for meals on Sundays, I don't actually go out for many meals at all as we prefer to cook ourselves.
I don't fill the car up on Sundays, too many Sunday drivers about.
I book all my holidays on-line so I don't need anyone to be there to help me.
I do all the other stuff you mention during the week.

I do, however, go out for a drink on Sundays. but then again, I've been doing that for the last 40+ years - which was way before Sunday trading as you're discussing it came into being.

So bar staff don't matter? Or is it just if you want to do something then it is OK?

mumps

Southend1 wrote: »

It's a pretty sorry situation when some people can't live through one day a week without calling their bank or arranging insurance!

I manage not to do it six days a week, Sunday is my admin day and that is when I do it. They offered the service.

mumps

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Absolutely no way would I want to be a teenager again, unless I had the chance to do things very differently.

30s is a nice age.

But I also like being the age I am now, early 60s with good health and enough money.

I've liked all ages so would happily go back as far as possible and do it all again.

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

My son works in Morrisons and more often than not does not work Sundays although he does like doing so when he can because it is more money.

His girlfriend is a kitchen assistant in an old peoples' home and usually works Sundays. The clients still need feeding even though it is Sunday.

I would just like to point out that I never buy socks in Morrisons on a Sunday so if your son's work is affecting family life on a Sunday it really isn't my fault. (I think you said he is a butcher so I don't suppose he would be selling me socks anyway but I am sure you understand what I mean.)

mumps

Pollycat wrote: »

Sounds like it to me.
I worked for a very large national organisation and I know that our Human Resources Dept (we stopped calling it 'Personnel' years before I retired :cool:) advertised jobs and interviewed prospective candidates (even internally) rather than setting on "friends of our staff" who "are keen to work for us".

Well HMRC don't call us a small organisation but I guess they know nothing compared to you. I think you will find lots of very large organisations don't need to advertise jobs but we will all accept the word of Pollycat who obviously knows better.

seven-day-weekend

mumps wrote: »

I've liked all ages so would happily go back as far as possible and do it all again.



I would just like to point out that I never buy socks in Morrisons on a Sunday so if your son's work is affecting family life on a Sunday it really isn't my fault. (I think you said he is a butcher so I don't suppose he would be selling me socks anyway but I am sure you understand what I mean.)

He works on the roast chicken counter.

He actually does not mind working Sundays. He gets more money for it and prefers a day off in the week, when everyone else is at work.

It does not affect our family life in the slightest. And the more roast chickens you buy off him, on a Sunday or otherwise, the better!

redbuzzard

I seem to have started an argument with my nostalgia attack.

It's not an argument, just a point of view. I simply lament that modern life should be better for the mass of people than it is, given the tremendous increase in productivity of the last 40 years.

We should have been able to translate that into more leisure and time to live, learn and socialise, not work, shop and eat 7 days a week.

Of course, the culprit is the market economy, which is extremely good at improving efficiency and generating wealth, but very bad at sharing it out. Left unshackled, it will always keep the mass of workers poor and enrich the owners of capital.

Unfortunately, like democracy, it seems to be the worst system there is, except for all the others that have been tried.

moneyistooshorttomention

mumps wrote: »

People starting work now, and for quite a while, know about Sunday working. If they are choosing a career and don't want to work Sundays then choose a job that allows them that choice.

If someone intends to stick to Monday-Friday working then a whole swathe of jobs becomes unavailable at the outset that used to be possible.

I was about halfway through my worklife (in office jobs basically) when Sunday trading came in and I can recall my first thought wasn't "Oh goodie. I can shop on Sundays too now". It was "Darn...darn...darn...that's a whole load of jobs I could no longer ask for if I ever needed them" (ie because I was a Monday-Friday worker only and wasn't prepared to change that). Till then (and late night working and Bank Holiday working) I'd always had that little "security thing" in my head that I could get a shop job for a while if it was proving difficult to get an office job. That "security thing" went in one fell swoop then. So my chances of unemployment became much greater with just one change of law.