pulling into bus lane to let police car pass

spacey2012

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

What a ridiculous statement to make.

Other road users will expect emergency vehicles to go through red lights. But they won't expect you to. So your actions may cause a collision (this has happened many times in the past), which could end up holding the emergency vehicles up.

I think you need to watch the video in gingerdad's link.

Please read all the post in future :idea:

Jamie_Carter

derrick wrote: »

No you are not!

HC Rule 129

Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid.
This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26



The rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence.

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Ok, I didn't go into detail. But the scenario I had in my head was in stationary traffic, and in order to go around stationary vehicles, to allow the emergency vehicle to pass. In these circumstances it would have been legal.

Jamie_Carter

spacey2012 wrote: »

Please read all the post in future :idea:

I did read your post.

If you didn't mean what you said, then please explain.

neilmcl

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

And where do you get that from?

His imagination no doubt.

Llyllyll

Let’s try and apply some common sense here. If you use the 'crossing a double white line' offence as an example then yes, it is an absolute offence i.e. factually you have or haven’t crossed the line but I would be very surprised that even if the LAs didn’t see sense and waive any fine then any magistrate worth their salt would agree that you had mitigating circumstances to do so and would cancel any fine levied.

smashingyour...

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

And where do you get that from?

Unless things have changed recently (which I doubt as standards are getting more stringent), then without any extra training the panda cars can only be driven as a normal car. And not driven on blues, or be exempt to any road traffic laws.

Have a read of Dorset Police drivers policy many are the same. West Midlands refers to ubv Dorset call them basic. No training in response or pursuit, in short they have a driving assessment which is less than a driving test.

smashingyour...

neilmcl wrote: »

His imagination no doubt.

What do you base that on then?

agrinnall

neilmcl wrote: »

What a stupid statement to make. Most emergency drivers will have had extensive driving training before being allowed behind the wheel.

But it doesn't necessarily make them good drivers. By coincidence The Scotsman has an article today headlined "Scottish Police commit 5 driving offences a week"

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/scottish-police-commit-5-driving-offences-a-week-1-2980583

smashingyour...

agrinnall wrote: »

But it doesn't necessarily make them good drivers. By coincidence The Scotsman has an article today headlined "Scottish Police commit 5 driving offences a week"

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/scottish-police-commit-5-driving-offences-a-week-1-2980583

Typical press slant on that story.

Speeding and red lights on duty. How can you break a law you are exempt from?

neilmcl

smashingyour... wrote: »

Have a read of Dorset Police drivers policy many are the same. West Midlands refers to ubv Dorset call them basic. No training in response or pursuit, in short they have a driving assessment which is less than a driving test.

So you missed this bit then -

4.7 (f) Training
4.7.1 In order to comply with this policy, all those involved must be trained within the terms
of the National Training Standards as published by Centrex (now NPIA) and currently
approved by ACPO.
4.7.2 As far as reasonably practicable, Dorset Police will ensure that its staff exercise all
due care, attention and professionalism in their standard of driving when responding
to emergency incidents.
4.7.3 Police drivers required to respond to emergency incidents will receive appropriate
training as well as periodic refresher training at the Force Driver Training Unit, in
accordance with the Force Driver Authorisation Policy.

Taken from your aforementioned Dorset Police emergency response driving policy. We can use google too. :rotfl: