The OS Doorstep - a helpful and supportive thread in these tough times

elona

SDG

Sending you a virtual hug.

I am trying vitamins to help sore knees which helps and keep meaning to get back to taking vit D3 which helps me get less fed up in the long dark days.

I would feel sad if anyone felt they had to stop posting.

Fuming on kezlou's behalf on the recent run in with the witches and hope Karma gets them very soon.

silvasava

Oh dear - such a shame this thread has gone off track. So sorry you have been made to feel bullied Pops especially as you have been so supportive to many of us.
I think I will take a break & hopefully the thread will return to its 'roots'
in the near future
Hugs to all who may need them

CRANKY40

cornishchick wrote: »

This one Katie, just using gf flour.


http://www.redonline.co.uk/food/recipes/mary-berrys-lemon-cupcakes

actually I only had plain flour and baking powder. Both gf. ... think that's what went Wrong?

My ordinary fairy cakes were sinking in the middle until I stopped putting milk in. It made the mixture too wet.... I make gluten free with the same recipe as ordinary (only I have to do them dairy free too, so use Pure instead of marg or butter) and they work fine. I think you only need a splash of milk if you're putting extra dry ingredients in like cocoa powder, and then only a splash, not a lot.

I'm feeling sad that Pops feels like he can no longer post here. It would be a boring world if everyone agreed with everyone else and people felt they couldn't ask for help or advice. I'm bowing out for a bit too, I just wanted to help Cornishchick with the cake problem first.

kezlou

I am really about this, pops wrote something very judgemental and i responded in a polite and mature way.

I had not been on the thread for a few days what with life getting in the way and things.

I came on just to catch up and i read some responses which i had no previously knowledge of and now i'm accused of of bullying pops.
It is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.

In the past i helped pops a great deal with helping with his mothers death and other things. I did this because i know how hard it is to cope with grief. If he needed anything i was they trying to his mind rest especially over the recent dealings with housing association did repeatedly say he had nothing to worry about it was changes to government policies.

But someone who makes such a disgraceful remark about people who he's never even spoken / met i have to speak out.I said slander because last night when i looking at another of a friend of mine a recommended blog came up and so i looked. Lo ad Behold its pops, total coincidence and in the comments i was basically accused, my name wasn't spoken. but there was i direct reference to mse and what i said. Hence slander.
He wrote this has a reaction to something writing a comment on his blog and the reference to HA and other frontline staff being called "goons".

Oh and Mrs chips yes i am sensitive but this has nothing to do with how i reacted to pops post. I have had a lot to deal with but i would never direct it towards someone. This is also a very low blow. I did not misread what he wrote in MY opinion. After i replied to pops on here i never mentioned it again. Instead he went on how he was bullied. I never replied to that.

Until last night i had never even seen his blog and wouldn't cross post. But since pops responded i felt i should.

I'm sorry pooky but i feel pressured to leave and being bullied myself because i spoke out to defend other people.

kidcat

Oh dear yet again we are back to this, where posters feel they can no longer post. This thread has always managed to bring together people with different opinions and allow them to support each other through their individual worries and struggles, without fear of being outcast.
We will never all share one opinion and the world would be very boring if we did.

These last few days it has felt very uncomfortable and as though instead of helping each other we are picking each other apart. There is a current trend in politics to turn those struggling against one another and I think this just shows the way things are currently in real life. That said I dont enjoy standing by and watching us rip each other apart when what we really need is to lift each other up and hold together.

I think with great sadness it may be time for this thread to take a break, and allow everyone time to pause and reflect. Times are increasingly difficult for us all and I know that personally in real life I am much more quick to fly off the handle at the slightest thing as a result. I think to a large degree we are seeing similar here.

Popperwell

Last response read my blog, anyone can and make your own minds up...mse has not been mentioned nor anyone who posts here. Carry on as you do supporting each other.

If more keeps getting added it gets out of hand...I bowed out.

I'll do better than that...

Here's what I said...you can decide without making any comment, otherwise this thread will close...why do you think I decided to go I don't want that. You will either say I have been fair or am a nasty so and so. I can't come out of this smelling like a rose.

"A strange day...I cut ties with another site that I enjoyed posting on due to a misunderstanding and even though I have refused to respond some flack continues...well if nothing else it shows I am interesting. I'm controversial it seems. I don't know how I feel...am I sad, bothered or just sorry that people have a wrong opinion of me? I have not mentioned anyone or the site I used to post on and I won't be.

If you read my blog and have over the years that's for you to decide. We all have our own situations to deal with and see things from our own point of view which will not always be how others do. Even when critical of me I try to see "All" points of view and even if I beg to differ I will treat everyone with respect.

I won't swear, use derogatory terms and will respond in general terms not knowingly in a direct way. Time to move on"

BTW another assumption has been made regarding the following.

kezlou wrote: »

Lo ad Behold its pops, total coincidence and in the comments i was basically accused, my name wasn't spoken. but there was i direct reference to mse and what i said. Hence slander.
He wrote this has a reaction to something writing a comment on his blog and the reference to HA and other frontline staff being called "goons".

I did not say I thought it was you and so not inflame the situation I did not publish the comment. The first comment in over almost seven years of writing a blog. Unless you look at the blog its all hearsay. And cross posting.

Post Kezlou here don't leave and yes thanks for your support in the past, thats why all this surprised me.

Now I really must draw the line for the sake of the posters who need this refuge and get support and help from here.

I was in two minds whether to write this response as things just become a seesaw.:( He said/she said. And everyone will leave...I like Kidcat's post, a lot of sense there.

Now I really have left the building...

nuttyp

Oh dear, ive read along and I am not getting involved. I love the way everyone celebrates when we have something nice - like when I announced my 6year after BR.

I am currently trying to do dare I say ..... Christmas list. I have some bits n bobs I bought in the sales so will sort these into presents for suitable receipiants. That should make it cheaper. I have been on land of bay and I won a handbag youngest DD with be so excited. Its used but in excellent condition.

Well I must get some sandwiches packed, I have work later. Take care everyone x

Mrs_Chip

And again, to set the record sraight.

The post that started all this again was from Wondercollie the day before yesterday, where Pops' blog was mentioned in a not very nice way, but not mentioning him by name.

Others followed, and then another from Cutestkids, which referred to the blog again.

My use of the word 'bullying' was in reference to those posts, and some of the others that referred to them, as I felt it was very unfair to post in such a way, i.e. 'not mentionging names, wink wink, we all know who we mean' - knowing that that person reads and posts on the thread.

I did not use the word towards you Kez, but specifically to describe my feelings about the posts being made.

ETA - I did wonder about the motivation behind Wondercollies post, as it came out of the blue, referring to something that was not being discussed on the thread. If it was meant to disrupt the thread, it certainly has worked

fuddle

Can you remember when I said 'spit it out?' I offended one of our friends without meaning to. I was mortified as I didn't think at all that those words would be so upsetting. A poster explained how they were hurtful to her, I accepted and I apologised. We never fell out or disrupted the thread. We're still a support to one another to this day.

I have behaved appalling on this thread in the past. I have reacted badly and emotionally. I have disrupted and ruined moral. I am upset that I behaved in that way in the past and try so hard not to get emotional because it hurts me, other posters and the feel of the thread.

No amount of feeling offended is worth upsetting people. I learned that the difficult way.

Pops and I don't see eye to eye. We all know that but we share the same space now and do so with respect of one another. We still clash but I think we both agree to disagree now. If I'm feeling emotional or wound up I try not to post. It's a strategy that is working for me and I would urge others to refrain from reacting to what they read because otherwise it turns into an unpleasant place, hurts you and others.

whiteguineapig

is there no way this can all be forgotten??
i don't usually post but i am missing pops already, he always seems such a helpful and kind person