No child tax payment means no food

bloolagoon

Bangton wrote: »

Why does it matter what Nannytone earns and gets when she didn't even start this thread?

I think some of the comments toward her are a little crass. This is someone living day to day with a disability that I assume most of you do not have so thus can't comment on how you'd feel, how much empathy she should expect and how much she should be expected to live on.

I can empathise with the OP to some degree, but in a way I do wonder how £20 can make such a massive difference that she cannot pick her children up from school nor eat this week. We put £20 a week in the car alone and I/my partner drive more locally than she appears to (considering the 8 mile drive to the children's school). I think it's melodrama and makes the HMRC look appalling when actually she is getting 'handouts' from them on a regular basis that there is an apparent lack of gratitude for. I get why this would irk someone like Nannytone, just knowing what little I do know about the shake up with DLA. Left, right and centre people are losing money with the economy at the moment. The difference is when work don't give us enough of a payrise to cover the rise in outgoings no one kicks up with them and phones HR to say they can't feed their children but yet people feel they have a right to kick off with HMRC over money they get as a bonus to what they already earn so they can bring up children they chose to have...

I agree with your points about the OP. regarding nannytone she raised ops income - she like many others on benefits think £30,000 is life changing. It is not for many. When I pointed out she gets £15,000 a year tax free as a single person this is declared unfair. £15,000 tax free for 1 person is not too dissimilar to £30,000 taxed for a family, I'd equate both struggle if high rental.

I will go on record to say even living now in Durham city I would struggle on 30,000 taxed, pensioned and NI'd to keep 4 of us. Our bills alone if renting would not leave enough to exist, once work related costs of fuel, parking and bills were deducted.

To have you earn £30,000 you should have thought about this before you had children is unfair, especially given their circumstances this month.

She is eutpoia for disabled, she epitomises what should happen across the UK as a progressive country, yet constantly whines about how hard done by she is, perhaps she needs to look at lives to realise how well supported she is, people would very much envy her position. I work with severely disabled on under £48 a week paying bills, facing sanctions, isolated and truly housebound. They have right to complain about cuts, not someone who openly admits they are more financially stable than they were prior to disability. Sorry but I get annoyed at her attitude and yes I need to rise above this, but a PA, even 5 hours a week would be life changing for many I know. Some people are never happy though I guess.

zaksmum

Ok, please can this thread not be about having a go at nannytone?

It's making me, for one, feel quite uncomfortable.

bloolagoon

zaksmum wrote: »

Ok, please can this thread not be about having a go at nannytone?

It's making me, for one, feel quite uncomfortable.

It wouldn't be if she never felt it necessary to lord her budgeting skills and negate ops concerns. I wish every one had her support, I think it's fantastic she is supported so much, but to throw income and lord it over others when she has what many dream of, is rather unpleasant.

StormyWeather_2

Thumper7 wrote: »

Of course it matters, it would seem that Nannytone is missing out on a chunk of money each month. I mean if going by the figures that Nannytone has stated and that she cannot access this money, then surely there is something very wrong.

Whether Nannytone started this thread or not, there seems to be an anomaly and if by my questioning this, Nannytone can have her income increased then all to the good is it not.

Not £100 a week, but £100 a week more, so £200 per week.

the PA gets paid £100 a week MORE than i have to live on for 22 hours a week.

fredandwilma

Thumper7 wrote: »

Nannytone,

I'm a bit confused, you say you get £1000 per month which you don't have access to to pay your PA. Then you go on and say your PA is only paid 100 per week, even with NI and Insurance, that does not add up to 1000. What happens to the remainder. I'm sorry if i'm missing something here.

I think you'll find nannytone receives £1000 per month in direct payments which is an additional resource available from social services for those receiving help from social services, so they can buy care for themselves. It's not a set amount you can apply for, like benefits, it depends on the level of help you need. You have a right to ask for direct payments instead of having the service arranged by social services.


http://www.nhs.uk/CarersDirect/guide/practicalsupport/Pages/Directpayments.aspx


https://www.gov.uk/apply-direct-payments



Along with the £100 per week nannytone say they receive in Esa, the Dla they say they receive, probably at least £100 per week, the disability premiums which will be added to Esa as they are in receipt of Dla which could total £180 Esa per week, £64 a month council tax support, (the £4 a week they receive as 20% of their council tax,} and their rent which will be paid as they are in receipt of all these benefits, this probably totals a weekly income in benefits in the region of £376 per week.


I've worked this on roughly £180.00 ESA, £100 DLA, £80 Housing benefit, £16.00 Council tax support = £376.00 per week.

Times by 4 = £1504 per month


Times by 12 = £18048 per annum

Add on the £1000 per month = £12000 per annum Direct Payments, (for carers etc, for which many people would have to use their DLA,) that's an annual (tax free) income of £30048.

Not bad?

Not that i'm criticising nannytone's right or need to this money, but i think you'll find they are receiving some considerable financial, practical and emotional support from the welfare state?

Elzmumof3

Good Lord. I really hope the OP got her situation sorted as somewhere along the line this thread ended up not being about her issue at all!

pinkladyof66

Yes i do hope the posters children havent been at school all weekend when all other posters have been discussing nannys financial affairs !

UnderPressure

And typically the Op has not been back to tell us! Ifind that sooooooo frustrating!

fredandwilma

bloolagoon wrote: »

I work with severely disabled on under £48 a week paying bills, facing sanctions, isolated and truly housebound. They have right to complain about cuts, not someone who openly admits they are more financially stable than they were prior to disability. Sorry but I get annoyed at her attitude and yes I need to rise above this, but a PA, even 5 hours a week would be life changing for many I know. Some people are never happy though I guess.

Whilst it's easy to highlight the cases where people "use" the welfare system, especially in the media, i think for many people on benefits, especially the ones who need help the most, it's far from the rosy picture, all too often painted.


Think of all the people who are struggling, as you said, isolated or housebound, who aren't able or don't know how to access the services or funding they require?

Think of the thousands of people out there, who aren't accessing support and public funding they are entitled to claim?

Think of the effect on the public purse, then?



Sorry for posting my comments on the thread, but it appeared to be an "open" thread, and that nannytone invited discussion on their finances?

ELMATHUD

Alot of people seem to think unemployment cant happen to them dont fool yourself !!