No child tax payment means no food

Morlock

MacMickster wrote: »

Really?

Have a look on Foxton's for the South-East region:

http://www.foxtons.co.uk/living-in/south-east-england/rentals/

Average rental value today
£610 per week
Average flat price:
£539 per week
Average house price:
£887 per week

Average rental price in South-East England for a three-bedroom property:

£792 per week

It isn't a definitive source, but gives a rough guide. Other sources produce similar results. It is not hard to realise why a family with an income of £30,000 in the UK may struggle without benefits.

missapril75

Morlock wrote: »

In many areas of the South-East, that £30k would be swallowed up entirely by the cost of annual rent for an average three-bedroom property.

It is certainly true that bigger incomes don't necessarily make one better off if outgoings are also higher.

But that higher income does open other doors that ought to be of use in times of difficulty.

missapril75

Morlock wrote: »

Not unless you are a bank...

:rotfl:

Or banker

MacMickster

Morlock wrote: »

Have a look on Foxton's for the South-East region:

http://www.foxtons.co.uk/living-in/south-east-england/rentals/

Average rental price in South-East England for a three-bedroom property:

£792 per week

It isn't a definitive source, but gives a rough guide. Other sources produce similar results. It is not hard to realise why a family with an income of £30,000 in the UK may struggle without benefits.

To reach that average they are including many high-spec Central London properties for rents of up to £6,000 per week. I suspect that someone so reliant upon tax credits would have somewhat more modest accomodation than the "average" south east property.

Morlock

MacMickster wrote: »

To reach that average they are including many high-spec Central London properties for rents of up to £6,000 per week. I suspect that someone so reliant upon tax credits would have somewhat more modest accomodation than the "average" south east property.

Assuming that only half of a £30k income is spent on rent, that doesn't leave much disposable income for a family of at least four.

MacMickster

If a family of 4 were paying £1250 monthly rent and say £400 on bills, I would expect them to be able to get by relatively comfortably on a further £650 per month (£150 per week) without facing starvation due to an expected £20 tax credit payment not hitting their bank account.

UnderPressure

MacMickster wrote: »

If a family of 4 were paying £1250 monthly rent and say £400 on bills, I would expect them to be able to get by relatively comfortably on a further £650 per month (£150 per week) without facing starvation due to an expected £20 tax credit payment not hitting their bank account.

You obviously do not have a family of 4 living on £150 a week! And £400 a month on bills? Do you live in the same country as the rest of us? £400 a month would not pay half mine and no there is no Sky or smoking!!!!!

I bet you are of the older generation, my mum spouts the same out of date nonsense all the time, in her day bla bla bla well t is not her day I would love to see her and you do it now!!

nannytone_2

UnderPressure wrote: »

You obviously do not have a family of 4 living on £150 a week! And £400 a month on bills? Do you live in the same country as the rest of us? £400 a month would not pay half mine and no there is no Sky or smoking!!!!!

I bet you are of the older generation, my mum spouts the same out of date nonsense all the time, in her day bla bla bla well t is not her day I would love to see her and you do it now!!

you cant feed and clothe a family of 4 on £150 a week?

notanewuser

UnderPressure wrote: »

You obviously do not have a family of 4 living on £150 a week! And £400 a month on bills? Do you live in the same country as the rest of us? £400 a month would not pay half mine and no there is no Sky or smoking!!!!!

I bet you are of the older generation, my mum spouts the same out of date nonsense all the time, in her day bla bla bla well t is not her day I would love to see her and you do it now!!

Our income is several times £30k and I don't spend anywhere near £150 a week on food and clothes for the 3 of us.

Our bills are probably closer to £500 per month including council tax.

sulkisu

notanewuser wrote: »

Our income is several times £30k and I don't spend anywhere near £150 a week on food and clothes for the 3 of us.

Our bills are probably closer to £500 per month including council tax.

Me too. We live and work in London, and as a family of five (albeit 2 babies and a toddler). But even with baby milk for two and nappies for three, I spend much less than £150 per week on grocery shopping - and 'no', I am not one of the 'oldies' either .