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Railway station car park - fine
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Fair enough. FCC would only have lost £7 as another car couldn't park there.
And do I get a seat on the train for my £240 per month? Not often..:rotfl:0 -
Making an offer to settle without any admission as to who was driving and without, importantly, any acceptance that any payment was properly due doesn't open up any cans of worms but could stymie any further action by APCOA (current experience is that they have never taken a case to court).
Putting forward an offer to make the situation go away is an everyday occurrence indeed despite what APCOA or any other PPC care to dress them up as their "tickets"/"charges"/"notices" are in strictly legal terms just "invitations to settle". They have started the process by simply making you an "offer". You are under no obligation to accept it and are perfectly entitled to put forward a counter-offer of your own. If they accept it all well and good. If they don't and continue to hang out for their full charge then it would be them who would have to justify their charge.
To clarify, I'd suggest that you simply make an offer. You don't have to justify why you make the offer simply make it. You don't make any admission - that would open up a can of worms.My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
Coupon-mad wrote: »Bylaws aren't relevant to a PPC ticket. Mentioned it in my first reply.
Not entirely true,and while it doesn't appear to be so in this case, PPCs (including APCOA) do use Byelaw 14 enforcement in some car parks at railway stations that they control.====0 -
Quite correct. However, when APCOA have done so the notices issued are entitled "Parking Enforcement Notices" and make a very clear and obvious reference to Byelaw 14(4)(i) - payment of penalty "as displayed in that area".Not entirely true,and while it doesn't appear to be so in this case, PPCs (including APCOA) do use Byelaw 14 enforcement in some car parks at railway stations that they control.
That would not appear to be the case here.My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
Just got another question after looking on POPSA website: if I'm going to appeal anyway, why not do it now? Why wait until I get a letter?0
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Because if they mess up the notice to keeper it's another thing to use against them at popla, I haven't heard of one of these companies being 100% compliant with pofa 2012, there is always something they don't or can't doWhen posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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POPLA will not accept your appeal without a reference number issued by the APCOA. That demonstrates that you have appealed to them first and that they have rejected it.AliceBanned wrote: »Just got another question after looking on POPSA website: if I'm going to appeal anyway, why not do it now? Why wait until I get a letter?My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
So I appeal to APCOA within 28 days? I then lose the right to the lower fine of £50. But presumably most people win when going through POPLA..?0
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It's not a fine ! And the higher figure is meaningless when you'll win at popla, these discounts are there to imitate council penalty charge notices, it's like a bribe to pay early. Of course the council bribe is steeped in statute law unlike these invoices which is steeped in scammers law.When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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Just had a look at the POPLA decisions thread. So in effect it is to do with land ownership and contracts, and the fact that the charges are inflated above the loss incurred? On those grounds alone, regardless of whether I could or could not get a valid ticket (without missing my train lol) are enough? Thanks.0
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