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Is it just me, or is indicating going out of fashion?
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I'll stick to indicating, thanks. I want to keep my 25 years no-claims.
crack on, mate....you do that!
But,at the same time, it is unwise to offer a criticism of a driver who doesn't happen to use the indicator...simply because you think it is wrong.
That other driver may well be perfectly correct too...?
Plus, they may be a good deal more aware of their surroundings?No, I don't think all other drivers are idiots......but some are determined to change my mind.......0 -
I don't care what you think is unwise, since you've failed to address the examples I gave. I'm not really interesting in the opinion of someone who quotes one line of a post and simply replies with an "I am right" type post. Bye bye.crack on, mate....you do that!
But,at the same time, it is unwise to offer a criticism of a driver who doesn't happen to use the indicator...simply because you think it is wrong.
That other driver may well be perfectly correct too...?
Plus, they may be a good deal more aware of their surroundings?0 -
Nah, there is no need to indicate any more - becuase the !!!!!!s that are crossing the road are not looking anyway. They all have massive headphones on and can't hear you either.
The blink, blink, exit motorway drivers always annoy me. I start indicating at the III exit sign, they start about 20' from the exit. Grr.
As for the rest - thats why crystal balls are now fitted as standard in all new cars.
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alistairq - see this is the kind of snobby attitude from 'don't indicate to the birds' people that I don't like. You have got into a good habit of checking around you before you indicate, well done. I (yes I have my advanced test) choose to simply indicate anyway. This does NOT mean that I am any less aware of my surroundings (you're meant to be looking all the time remember) and what you cannot argue is that mine is the best failsafe option.
Indicating, and paying attention, are two seperate things, and you have them tied together.
You keep doing what you do, absolutely nothing wrong with it, and if you're a perfect driver (and you seem to think you are), then no-one will ever know, as no road user will ever see you not indicating. But talking down to people on here who give you good, valid examples of 'things that happen' - 'someone pulled out in front of me', 'you should have anticipated that' shows a bad attitude to other drivers.
You can anticipate lots of things, but if you act on everything you anticipate could go wrong on the road, you'd soon end up at a complete stop scared to move anywhere!0 -
yes you could!!
IF....the examiner agreed it wasn't necessary, because they noted you determined first whether there was any road user who needed to know....and they agreed with that!
However..your instructor would have not wanted to place you under any more pressure than that already imposed by being 'on test'...!
Therefore, your instructor would have taught you to signal every time .....regardless of whether there was anybody else around, or who, needed to be informed .
In other words, if the indicator was used for a situation...but no-one else was about, the examiner would have noted that fact, but perhaps not bothered to make a point...however, if the candidate were left on their own to make such decisions, and decided not to indicate....but the examiner identified a road user who may have 'needed-to-know'...then a fault [or..serious fault] would be recorded.
Instructing a novice driver prior to test is as much about not leaving things to chance, as anything else.
The point of this thread is the fact that people are not signalling WHEN other road users are about.
You will not pass your test if did not signal 90% of the time which a lot of people do now.
On the motorway seems to be the worst for it people just decide to move lanes and think we should know what they are thinking.0 -
The point of this thread is the fact that people are not signalling WHEN other road users are about.
You will not pass your test if did not signal 90% of the time which a lot of people do now.
On the motorway seems to be the worst for it people just decide to move lanes and think we should know what they are thinking.
You don't need to indicate if you move left UNLESS your leaving the motorway.
The reason for this is related to middle lane drivers.......
Lane 1 is the normal lane, lane 2 and 3 are overtaking lanes, when you overtake on a single carriageway, you indicate to overtake and you pull back in. A motorway is no different, you indicate to overtake, you SHOULD return to your lane and everyone else SHOULD expect you to do so.
As recommended by the IAM.
In practice, because some people are idiots, indicating left might be necessary in certain circumstances.“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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^^As above. Once you've completed an overtake there really isn't any need to indicate to pull back in. The only time I feel it's necessary to indicate left is if I'm in lane 3 (or 4) and there's traffic in lane 1 and I want to make sure anyone thinking of overtaking from lane 1 is aware I intend on moving into the middle lane.0
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I agree with the majority of BMW and Audi drivers...I've stopped bothering to indicate, as no-one takes a blind bit of notice anyway.
Top-it-all,what about this fashion fad for clear-lensed front indicators, with feeble bulbs behind, that cannot be seen until too late in bright daylight?
On my dash, right next to my sat-nag, I had glued my crystal ball......No, I don't think all other drivers are idiots......but some are determined to change my mind.......0 -
One could argue that if the driver was in a filter lane with a green arrow; s/he can only turn right from there so is not obliged to indicate. (Can't remember the HC on that subject but I'm sure someone will correct if I'm out of date.) So the cyclist is the one more to blame. In my experience, the sort of cyclist who dives through on red places more faith in their speed than in what any car might be indicating anyway.Another one was when I was driving, waiting at red light, oncoming traffic had a right filter with filter on green. Some moron car turned right without indicating, some moron cyclist going my way went through the red light - guess what happened. Would say they both deserved it if I were evil
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One could argue that if the driver was in a filter lane with a green arrow; s/he can only turn right from there so is not obliged to indicate
Here's a good point, I indicate to change lanes, but I don't sit with my indicator on if there is only one direction I can go.
I find myself laughing at drivers who are in lane, can only go one direction and as they approach the junction they indicate anyway. To me this says "hey im half asleep, im not really paying attention, just doing sh*t automatically".“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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