Is it just me, or is indicating going out of fashion?

alastairq

Lum wrote: »

As someone who is still in constant pain from someone driving into the back of me 9 years ago. I don't recommend this method of getting a new car.

I appreciate what you are saying....'awareness' does much to offset the surprise.

With my present 'job' [I can no longer be 'bothered' with teaching people to pass their tests...]...I spend a considerable amount of my working week driving/being driven in large vehicles, off-road.

I'm one of the few amongst my colleagues who actually enjoy this aspect of my work....

Being shunted around by inexpert drivers is grist-to-the-mill for me....

Sum total of cars paid for by the insurances of others are around 6 so far....must make me quite MSE?

Lum

My experience is one of always getting screwed over on the valuation, 9 years of pain, and ending up car-less for months on end, unable to work short of buying a banger out of my own pocket.

Not sure how my accident could have been avoided in any case, when I was forced to stop, behind me was completely clear as far as I could see (motorway roundabout) just as I was about to start moving again, I was hit at 50mph by someone driving an Audi 80 who was turned around and arguing with his kids and so didn't see me and made no attempt to stop.

alastairq

Not sure how my accident could have been avoided in any case, when I was forced to stop, behind me was completely clear as far as I could see (motorway roundabout) just as I was about to start moving again, I was hit at 50mph by someone driving an Audi 80 who was turned around and arguing with his kids and so didn't see me and made no attempt to stop.

You have my sympathies there......

however, there is a huge difference between your unfortunate experience, and a collision as a result of tailgating [which inevitably occurs at much lower closing speeds?}.....whereby another vehicle has consistently been following at too close a distance [less-than-2 seconds gap]...and fails to slow quickly enough when I slow...

In the end, if they claim I slowed/stopped for 'no reason' [I always have a reason].....then all that needs to be pointed out is....why did they not see what I saw?

Surely not because they were too close behind? :think:

Strider590

alastairq wrote: »

Sum total of cars paid for by the insurances of others are around 6 so far....must make me quite MSE?

Not really, not when your premiums have been stacked up for being a high risk driver.

I'm not sure why people have this idea that being rear ended and not being considered at fault, somehow miraculously doesn't affect their premiums.
There's NCB and then there's statistical risk, two entirely different things.

Lum

alastairq wrote: »

however, there is a huge difference between your unfortunate experience, and a collision as a result of tailgating [which inevitably occurs at much lower closing speeds?}.....whereby another vehicle has consistently been following at too close a distance [less-than-2 seconds gap]...and fails to slow quickly enough when I slow...

I've since been hit by tailgaters at low speeds twice since that big one.

Not only does it wake up that old injury, in one case I picked up a nice set of neck injuries as I happened to be looking right at the time of impact meaning the muscles all got yanked in different ways.

alastairq

Not really, not when your premiums have been stacked up for being a high risk driver.

I'm not sure why people have this idea that being rear ended and not being considered at fault, somehow miraculously doesn't affect their premiums.
There's NCB and then there's statistical risk, two entirely different things.

I've not noticed anything of a hike in my premiums over the years....exactly the opposite, if anything.

Maybe it's because each claim was an entirely no-fault claim...with the risk being taken on by those who have been claimed against?

My NCD has...and will always remain, I hope, entirely untouched.

I have never bothered with no-claims protection at all.

With the no-fault collisions..[without injury, I hasten to add], The major payouts occurred with uninsured losses cover.

Maybe it's just because, with a combination of my personal circumstances, age, profession, etc, I am seen as a 'low' risk anyway?

Anyway, The only time my premium has risen is when I've insured a vehicle from a higher insurance group. .....or insurance in general has increased.

Last year my premium fell slightly.

As it did the year before.

Generally I stay with the same company..[customer lethargy?]..having been disappointed wit the service to be had from the ultra cheap insurers.

SCO

alastairq wrote: »

I fail to see where indicating one is returning to the left carriageway after overtaking can be 'courteous?'

Its the same as somone not holding a door for you, why not signal back in if you have overtaken me? you are performing a change of lane, others need to be aware of this.

Therefore not exerting any sort of 'influence' over the overtaken driver whatsoever. Therefore a signal is nothing but a waste of energy. []or a display of pomposity?]

its a sign of a driver that takes driving seriously.

However..if overtaking, but wishing to insert oneself between two fairly closely- spaced vehicles, a left indication is essential.

They should not be trying to get in a gap that is not big enough.

SCO

alastairq wrote: »

How slow is 'too slow?'

What 'rights' do they have to demand I either speed up, or, park-and-get-out-of-their -way?

None whatsoever.

In my experience, simply 'allowing' a tailgater to pass, is counter-productive. IN my experience, once they lose the comfort of that 'driver-in-front' they're lost, and proceed to get in my way.

But then, being a naughty driver, I view tailgaters as the source of finance for my next new car!

Take it your one of those peeople that brakes when somone is too close, never understood that? the gap only gets smaller.

Lum

SCO wrote: »

Take it your one of those peeople that brakes when somone is too close, never understood that? the gap only gets smaller.

They also get easier to overtake.

I've sat and watched someone in a BMW M5 (it would be wouldn't it) do that to a 40-everywhere driver. Got them down to about 25 mph on a twisty single carriageway with limited visibility and then did a safe overtake. The anger was very obvious since fists were getting waved, they were so angry they forgot to speed up so after the next bend and into a good visibility section and I could safely overtake them too, cue flashing of lights.

I don't approve of the method, but that wasn't going to stop me taking advantage of the situation, so thank you Mr. BMW driver for taking all the risk and allowing me to get past that guy risk free.