Having trouble with the jobcentre

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Dunroamin wrote: »

You don't actually have to care about someone to care for them. In this instance we might be better to use the title care giver rather than carer.

Agreed. People call me a dog-lover because I look after them in peoples' homes whilst their owners are away. I would not class myself as such. I LIKE dogs, but look after them professionally and make sure that they are fed, watered, walked, medicated and played with. It's a job, I don't have to 'love' the animals I look after. Some of them I haven't even liked, but still done my duty.

To the OP, you sound very aggressive to me and until your attitude changes, no-one will employ you and until you comply with Jobcentre requirements, you will continue to get sanctioned. You should be looking for ANY work. End of.

culpepper

If you are serious about finding a job and getting off benefits, you should go for the interviews to anything that you can, even if you think you are unsuitable .
The potential employer can then decide if you are the man for the job.
It shows that you are doing your best to find a job even if you don't get one.
I know it is frustrating when you start off all enthusiasm and apply for numerous positions only to be rejected repeatedly, not going for the interviews when they are presented, wont solve it though.
Having a job you don't like ,doesn't stop you applying for other jobs you like the sound of more.

MisterMan_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

You don't actually have to care about someone to care for them. In this instance we might be better to use the title care giver rather than carer.

If somebody doesn't want to be a carer then we shouldn't force them, and I disagree that a care giver does not have to care.

We read enough about cases of abuse of the elderly, people getting care etc, in the news. To tell someone it's a job and they should be open to doing it, is offensive to the people who have to receive care. And looking after an elderly or frail human is much different to a dog!

seven-day-weekend

MisterMan wrote: »

If somebody doesn't want to be a carer then we shouldn't force them, and I disagree that a care giver does not have to care.

We read enough about cases of abuse of the elderly, people getting care etc, in the news. To tell someone it's a job and they should be open to doing it, is offensive to the people who have to receive care. And looking after an elderly or frail human is much different to a dog!

Oh I agree, the point I was making is that carers are not going to 'love' all their elderly clients, but it doesn't mean they won't still be a good carer. However if someone really doesn't want to do it, then I agree they are probably not the best person for the job.

Dunroamin

MisterMan wrote: »

If somebody doesn't want to be a carer then we shouldn't force them, and I disagree that a care giver does not have to care.

We read enough about cases of abuse of the elderly, people getting care etc, in the news. To tell someone it's a job and they should be open to doing it, is offensive to the people who have to receive care. And looking after an elderly or frail human is much different to a dog!

A care giver has to work efficiently and effectively which would, obviously preclude abusing them. Someone can care a great deal and still not be good at providing care, in addition in 7 out of 8 cases of elder abuse, the abuser is a relative who presumably does care about them.

Missme

And the upshot of carers who don't 'care' or have no empathy/sympathy is the many cases of abuse by staff that we read about. I'd certainly not like my various needs or those of anyone I know to be dependent on someone with the OP's attitude (fact not insult).

OP, I have been told by friends(!) that I have my 'eff off' face on - usually when I'm concentrating - and I have a presence that can be intimidating without doing anything. Because I know people think these things, when the situation requires it, I ensure that I have my 'come hither' face on and my body language is passive. Maybe you need to see yourself through others' eyes and amend your behaviour so that ultimately you get what you want out of a situation.

MisterMan_2

Also, can you imagine the OP being a carer? Whilst bathing a client, telling her the latest abuse scandals he read about and how she should be lucky she doesn't have one of those carers.

Dunroamin

MisterMan wrote: »

Also, can you imagine the OP being a carer? Whilst bathing a client, telling her the latest abuse scandals he read about and how she should be lucky she doesn't have one of those carers.

I agree he sounds totally unsuited for caring work but I can't really see what work would suit him, given his attitude and problems with anger management.

custardy

andy2004 wrote: »

Hi.
Today i received a letter from the jobcentre informing they are not paying me from the 22may - 6 August, two week ago i received another letter say from 8th may.
They put down in their letter that i'm not looking for work.
2 weeks ago when i was at the jobcentre the advisor said about carers and cleaning, and i said i was not going to do either of those jobs and she replied so your not willing to do ANY JOBS then. like carers and cleaning are the only 2 available jobs in the UK.
before this i was banned from the jobcentre for 3 months over them changing what i actually said to them.
I said "I read on yahoo about some jobcentre advisor having acid thrown in their faces," didnt finish with thought you might like to read it, when they came back "so you want to throw acid in our faces" even put it down in their report to the police that i said "I wanted to throw acid their faces"
before this since august 2012 they have done every thing can to stop my benefits, ever month they where informing me i was being sanctioned. I appealed and won each time. even over christmas they sanctioned me, but didnt inform me so i couldnt appeal and when they did eventually inform me they said it was TO LATE for me to appeal. was supposed to notified 22 Dec via phonecall / letter, but none arrived until mid Jan.
I only apply for jobs I CAN DO, theres no point in me applying to be a manager or anything in advisory due to the amount of years I've been unemployed.
I'm coming to the end of my tether, so what are my options besides seeing my ombudsman, who being a tory MP wouldnt do anything anyway my ombudsman happens to be david willetts.

my jobsearch currently entails 3hrs online jobsearch every other day, but my jobseekers agreement actually says 3hrs DAILY. as the sites i use dont get updated daily and 98% of the time even doing every other day brings up the same jobs.

havent read the rest of the replies
however from what I read
you are an idiot for your comments and 3 hours of online searching every other day is lackluster
get of your 'arris and put some shoe leather down

SaveMeDo

Hard to have sympathy for you after the remarks about acid, which I would say was a veiled threat.

However

I would suggest that the chances of you getting back into employment are virtually nil (I'm in a similar position) and you are clearly at your wits end (as am I !)

There are people with an excellent, full CV, with great qualifications and "the work ethic" who can't get a job in the current economic situation, so those of us who have been out of the market for a few years don't have a hope of getting anything.

I think you should go to the doctor and explain the situation, maybe you are depressed or something, and he might recommend that you "go sick" for a while and sign you off JSA and onto ESA.