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Having trouble with the jobcentre
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Can I make a point here? If the OP has no interest in caring for others then what is the point of them being a Carer? The clue is in the name Carer.0
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Last time you worked was 1999?
That's 14 yrs ago!0 -
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You seem to have got into the mindset of 'I have no experience so can't get a job' - To be honest people should not be allowed to sign on for 14 YEARS i think that is an obscene amount of time to expect others to pay for you when you seem to have contributed so little to working life yourself.0
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Firetastic wrote: »Can I make a point here? If the OP has no interest in caring for others then what is the point of them being a Carer? The clue is in the name Carer.
A bin man is not a man made of bins. A carer does not have to provide emotional care, they have to provide physical care.0 -
For real? The OP has not worked for 14 years? I wonder why!!?
Thought the same. That's why I asked about mental and physical problems. How is it possible? Is there something you haven't mentioned OP?
Anyway, you're coming across very aggressive in your post. And you did get help... you said the sites you use don't get updated daily and that you need to look daily. I gave you two websites which are updated every day.citricsquid wrote: »A bin man is not a man made of bins. A carer does not have to provide emotional care, they have to provide physical care.
I wouldn't recommend it or make someone be a carer if they're not suitable. You have to want to do it if you're going to work with vulnerable people.0 -
citricsquid wrote: »A bin man is not a man made of bins. A carer does not have to provide emotional care, they have to provide physical care.
Place yourself in the position of somebody requiring care. Would you like to receive it from somebody who does not emotionally care?0 -
Well if you read my post, I was at a jobcentre, I would have THOUGHT they would like to know whats been going on at other jobcentres after all they do the same job. so they could think themselves lucky they dont work at THAT jobcentre.
Why do they NEED to know this? What purpose does it serve other than imply you could do that to them? Any reasonable man could interpret what you said as a threat. It doesn't matter if you think it's a threat. If you were brought to court for threatening behaviour you will be convicted.
Doesn't matter what your interest is. You can't get a job so you should do any job you can apply for, regardless of interest. The comment about your sisters is irrelevant. You haven't been in a cleaning job and you haven't been the one 'sick'. What chemical is it your sisters alleged to get sick from anyway? They probably made it up.93123 I've got no interest in caring for others, and as for cleaning i've got 3 sisters who did it, who are now sick due to the chemicals they where told to use.
oh dont get me wrong they all do other jobs, but they cant do cleaning as a job.
If it's 3hrs per day you signed for it's 3hrs per day. It's contract law you'd be breaching if you refuse to do 3hrs job search per day as you agreed to do in exchange to receiving benefits.as for the 3hrs it says 3 hrs per day on my agreement, which is actually a guide line not LAW.
Do you even know what a contradiction is? Is this a joke? I suggest talking to a psychologist, and I'm not being sarcastic.And I have NO MENTAL or PHYSICAL problems. I dont like heights or ladders due to slipping down a 20ft ladder when i was younger.
Just do voluntary work. Are you too high and mighty to find voluntary work because you're required to work without pay? That's life.What i have got is LACK OF WORK EXPERIENCE. last time i worked was 1999 under NEW DEAL as a self employed market trader, and they where NO HELP then and I only did that because they gave me 2 choices after finishing a "work program", option 1 go 6months without benefits, option 2. do something.
You did imply the threat. Repeat what you said in any magistrates court and you'll be convicted. Anyone with common sense will interpret that statement as a threat. There's no other reason you'd bring up this news.SueC i didnt imply anything. I simply said I read on yahoo in the news about an advisor at a jobcentre having acid thrown in their face.
You'll be civil if you want to remain out of prison. You'll be civil if you want to continue receiving benefits. End of.I'll be civil to them, when they are civil to me. Lets see what happens when you end up going down there, being told we're stopping your benefits for 6months, then 2 seconds later being told "oh we're going on strike next week as we cant afford to live on our £146 a week wages." or the other time, "i've just bought a £15,000 soft top BMW" whats that got to do with my jobsearch and me looking for work. NOTHING.Well NO HELP here then. so no recommendations on going to see my ombudsman then.
The jobcentre hasnt helped me 1 bit except for sending me to back to work programs which dont actually work for me over the past 18 years of me SIGNING. yes 18 years, and just think when i first signed I was so polite and did everything they told me to do, and after being sanctioned for doing what they told me to do, thought why am i listening to these "people". I signed up for a welding course at a college, i went to the interview filled in the paper work, just had to ask the jobcentre 1 question length of time, went to the jobcentre on my signing day, and got told I didnt go to the college for the interview, well the person they spoke to wasnt the person i saw, the person they saw was on HOLIDAY when i had my interview, so how could he see me. but the jobcentre stopped my benefits. Even though i had proof, 1 i had to sign in when i got to the college, and 2nd i had the college books on my lap in front of them. But hay, i've even been banned from the jobcentre for 3months, and before you ask I DIDNT SAY 1 ONE TO THEM, i did however say HI to the security guard. Figure that one out, all I did was sit down in a chair and wait for the advisor to speak and that was "threatening and aggressive behaviour" according to the letter i got 4 days later.
1. You weren't sanctioned for doing what they told you to do. They told you to search for jobs at least 3hrs per day. You said you did this every other day.
2. College books is not acceptable 'evidence'. You should have brought a signed letter the college posted to invite you to the interview, or perhaps a printout of the email with contact details of the person who did interview you.
3. If you were sanctioned and sat down stubbornly 'waiting' for the advisor to speak despite being told to leave, your action is threatening.
Sort out your attitude problems.0 -
if you signed an agreement (which you did or you don't get your benefit) saying you agree to do 3 hours of job searching a day, then yes it is "law" in as much as you agreed if you don't do it then your money would be stopped, if you do not agree to such rules then do not sign to say you do, come to an agreement next time you renew your agreement between you and the JSA people what your agreement says.
As for applying for jobs you do not want to do, such as cleaning and care work, chances are you would not get the job anyway, so why not just apply for it to keep them happy, as the rule is and I think it is after 26 weeks of a new claim, you have to apply for any job, you can not pick and choose, even apply for jobs you know you will not get, it's a game, they like ticking boxes, if they say apply for 6 jobs a week, apply for any 6 jobs a week, they tick their box, you get your money, no box ticked, no money.0 -
Firetastic wrote: »Can I make a point here? If the OP has no interest in caring for others then what is the point of them being a Carer? The clue is in the name Carer.
You don't actually have to care about someone to care for them. In this instance we might be better to use the title care giver rather than carer.0
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