Anti-Social Driving/Tailgating fines

ILW

Strider590 wrote: »

I appreciate the sentiment, but middle lane hogs aren't the cause...... The cause is poor education, the cause is the reason they think they should be in the middle lane.
As it's not taught by driving instructors, so it MUST be something passed down via friends/family.

It's exactly the same as "Road Tax", people think it exists because it's a commonly used phrase, but it hasn't since 1936 and it causes no end of trouble for cyclists and the like.

If you renew online, the site is something like DVLA/TAXDISC.

Jamie_Carter

Lum wrote: »

As for HGVs disobeying it amongst themselves. My understanding is that there is a certain element of trust between HGV drivers, they might even be keeping the trucks behind up to date over CB, and in any case an HGV isn't able to stop as suddenly as a car driver might.

What a ridiculous idea.

Do you seriously think that any driver could react quick enough when they have to wait to be warned by another driver via CB radio, and then hit the brakes? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Jamie_Carter

Lum wrote: »

Tailgating is also covered as an offence under this new scheme is it not. My view is that the stopping distance of the person you are about to pull in front of (someone who has done no wrong) trumps the need for the car behind to be able to go faster and that if you pull over too soon you are technically committing an offence. However I guess that one could be argued if you felt that the tailgater was creating a particularly dangerous situation... it's a tricky one.

It's not a 'tricky one' at all. If someone pulls into the safety zone in front of you, then you should adjust your speed to increase the gap again. If you don't then you will be committing an offence. However the person who pulled in front of you will also be committing an offence by making you change speed.

Jamie_Carter

Lum wrote: »

Also remember that there's no law about passing on the left, so just go past them, hopefully it will wake them up!

Yes there is, the law is dangerous driving.

smokey_dave

fivetide wrote: »

About time or something that just can't be enforced?

Fixed fines of £100 and three points for tailgating and middle lane hogging on the motorway. Fines for seatbelts and mobile phone use also up to £100 but no points for that.

I do think the idea of not tying up court and police time is a good one but it could backfire if everyone simply appeals the ticket anyway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22770064

Best way to stop the use of mobile phones would be a MINIMUM 1 year disquaification. This would work and help to save lives. £100 will not stop anything.

Jamie_Carter

Lum wrote: »

Not on it's own it isn't. Combine it with cutting in front of people and it becomes dangerous, but not in the example given of nothing on the motorway for miles except for yourself and one MLM.

Why not test the police on this one then, and see what happens :rotfl:

Jamie_Carter

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Before someone else says it, Lum's right. There is no specific law against passing on the left in the UK.

The Highway Code is only advice, except where it says "you MUST NOT..." and refers to legislation - as it does on the page you linked in regards to using the hard shoulder.

Failure to follow the advice can, however, be used as evidence that your driving wasn't to the expected standard in a charge of careless driving etc.

Or dangerous driving, which is the more serious offence.

dacouch

I can't wait for them to start hitting the middle lane hoggers, hate people who turn a three lane motorway into a two lane road

Jamie_Carter

smokey_dave wrote: »

Best way to stop the use of mobile phones would be a MINIMUM 1 year disquaification. This would work and help to save lives. £100 will not stop anything.

Agreed. Especially as you are 4 times more likely to have an accident when using a mobile phone (without hands free), then you are when just over the drink drive limit.

It ridiculous that some drivers won't even put their phone down to get out of the way for emergency vehicles. And believe me this is extremely common.

MoneyMate

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Wrong: https://www.gov.uk/motorways-253-to-273/overtaking-267-to-269

Thanks Jamie Carter I agree with your points, strange how driving attitudes and driving standards have changed. :eek: