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British Airways maintenance fail

Mr_Wang
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For the price you pay and given the risk you take with strikes etc...

You wouldn't think they'd employ Bodgit & Scarper to maintain their planes :cool:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22732582
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  • bagand96
    bagand96 Posts: 6,641 Forumite
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    You wouldn't.

    But if the sh*t hit the fan like it it did here; I'd be more than grateful I'd chosen BA :beer:
  • Bob_the_Saver
    Bob_the_Saver Posts: 5,610 Forumite
    bagand96 wrote: »
    You wouldn't.

    But if the sh*t hit the fan like it it did here; I'd be more than grateful I'd chosen BA :beer:

    I thought it was Jet A-1 that hit the fan :p
  • bagand96
    bagand96 Posts: 6,641 Forumite
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    I thought it was Jet A-1 that hit the fan :p

    You're better than me... I was trying to think of how to relate it to an engine fan pun!
  • Mr_Wang
    Mr_Wang Posts: 1,302 Forumite
    To be fair it could've been much worse....They could've actually got to Oslo.
  • shaun_from_Africa
    shaun_from_Africa Posts: 12,858 Forumite
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    A mistake was obviously made as the open latches were missed by at least two different people, but this is something that is very easy to miss and indeed, has been missed on many other occasions in various countries.
    The particular cowl catch in question is well known for being a problem area, and there have been a few modifications by the manufacturer and various operators to fix this, but the problems keep happening.

    http://www.google.co.uk/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=V2500+COWL+LATCH&oq=V2500+COWL+LATCH&gs_l=hp.3...3369.3369.0.5066.1.1.0.0.0.0.265.265.2-1.1.0...0.0...1c.2.15.psy-ab.i-JI05B2voQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47244034,d.eWU&fp=2ff8f39d2adbdb70&biw=1187&bih=512

    This is a small snippet from the UK AAIB (air accident investigation board) special bulletin about the incident.

    The AirbusSafety First’ magazine, Issue 14 dated July 2012, contains an article relating to the prevention of fan cowl door loss. At that time there had been 32 reported fan cowl door detachment events, 80% of which had occurred during the takeoff phase of flight.


    The full bulletin can be found here if anyone is interested:
    http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/AAIB%20S3-2013%20G-EUOE.pdf
  • Jamie_Carter
    Jamie_Carter Posts: 5,282 Forumite
    bagand96 wrote: »
    You wouldn't.

    But if the sh*t hit the fan like it it did here; I'd be more than grateful I'd chosen BA :beer:
    Why exactly?
  • telboyo
    telboyo Posts: 410 Forumite
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    What you all forget/ do not know is that an incident like this IS A GOOD THING Everytime there is a maintenance error the operator has to report it and investigate it and record the findings. In the aerospace world these things don't just get swept under the carpet, they try to find the reason REAL reason for the incident. It is not just a blame storm. IF someone left the catches open, they will try to ascertain the reaason for it, Human error, lack of training, tiredness, misperception, incorrect procedures, "everyone does it this way", pressure of work, family circumstances, tired ness, poor working environment. All of these factors are investigated, usually there is never just one of the above to explain the error, when the culprit is found they will take steps to rectify the situation by changing things through out the system. It is very rare that there is a single person or process to blame. Aeropspace companies have to report everytime someone makes a mistake or gets close to a mistake, in fact, they are penalised if they do not report/record a certain amount of !!!! ups per year. Everyone involved takes these inciddents as a wake up call to improve their ways of working and very rarely use them as a !!!!!! storm to blame someone else.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Over at Pprune the word is that companies have continuously driven down costs of maintenance and turn round times ,that maintenance staff are being driven too hard and that many close to retirement cant wait to get out. Of course this isnt just a BA issue.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • stoneman
    stoneman Posts: 4,550 Forumite
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    bagand96 wrote: »
    You wouldn't.

    But if the sh*t hit the fan like it it did here; I'd be more than grateful I'd chosen BA :beer:

    So what, you think only BA pilots would have been able to bring the plane in?
    If that's not what you were eluding to then what?
    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.
  • Doshwaster
    Doshwaster Posts: 6,354 Forumite
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    What I don't understand is that my 6 year old Ford Focus tells me if the boot isn't closed properly. You'd think a multimillion pound aircraft would have an alarm for these hatches.

    Besides, let's put this in perspective. Flying is very safe and flying on any British airline is very, very safe. There hasn't been a fatal accident involving a major British passenger airline since 1989.
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