Had a Visit from TV Licence Man

sniggings

oldgrumpygit wrote: »

Incorrect.


Although amazing how many people think that.

sorry but it is correct, but for the sake of argument lets say you are correct, are you saying the only way to get a conviction is a confession or someone witnessing you watching a live feed?

if that were the case, what point would a warrant serve, as in the video I linked above, the guy is testing for a visable picture, when one was "found" the guy got convicted, only later to win because the picture was proved to have not been visable at the time of the inspection, sorry if I'm missing something here, but i try to back up my argument with evidence not just a reply of "Incorrect" !

katejo

oldgrumpygit wrote: »

Incorrect.


Although amazing how many people think that.

I have a licence . If I went to stay with a friend and took an iPad with me to watch a film (while my friend was out) , I don't believe that I could be prosecuted . If challenged surely proof of my home address would show that I had a licence ?

sniggings

katejo wrote: »

I have a licence . If I went to stay with a friend and took an iPad with me to watch a film (while my friend was out) , I don't believe that I could be prosecuted . If challenged surely proof of my home address would show that I had a licence ?

your licence covers you for any mobile device, if you were to plug it into your friends house, it stops being a mobile device and becomes part of his household so to speak, so would need to be covered by a licence at that property.

katejo

sniggings wrote: »

your licence covers you for any mobile device, if you were to plug it into your friends house, it stops being a mobile device and becomes part of his household so to speak, so would need to be covered by a licence at that property.

And if I were accessing wireless in the friend's house so not plugged in ?

sniggings

katejo wrote: »

And if I were accessing wireless in the friend's house so not plugged in ?

fine to do that, if the device is seen as part of the household as opposed to still being mobile that's where it gets confusing so best to keep it totally mobile when viewing a live feed, ok to charge etc just not whilst watching, it would have a lot of people claiming someone elses licence was covering their viewing otherwise, if plugged in.

A good one is students in halls, many think they need a separate licence for their laptops etc but their home licence will cover their mobile device...as long as it stays mobile.

katejo

sniggings wrote: »

fine to do that, if the device is seen as part of the household as opposed to still being mobile that's where it gets confusing so best to keep it totally mobile when viewing a live feed, ok to charge etc just not whilst watching, it would have a lot of people claiming someone elses licence was covering their viewing otherwise, if plugged in.

A good one is students in halls, many think they need a separate licence for their laptops etc but their home licence will cover their mobile device...as long as it stays mobile.

So in halls students have to watch live tv on a laptop on battery not while charging ?

oldgrumpygit

sniggings wrote: »

sorry but it is correct, but for the sake of argument lets say you are correct, are you saying the only way to get a conviction is a confession or someone witnessing you watching a live feed?

if that were the case, what point would a warrant serve, as in the video I linked above, the guy is testing for a visable picture, when one was "found" the guy got convicted, only later to win because the picture was proved to have not been visable at the time of the inspection, sorry if I'm missing something here, but i try to back up my argument with evidence not just a reply of "Incorrect" !

Happy to back it up


From the TV Licensing site

"You need a valid TV Licence if you use TV receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV."

Key word in the sentence above is "use"


Having something that is capable of doing something is not the same as using it.

Hope that clears that up for you.

oldgrumpygit

katejo wrote: »

So in halls students have to watch live tv on a laptop on battery not while charging ?[/QUOTE

If they can cope without live TV they can of course use many of the catch up services with no need for a licence.


And they can plug in their stuff into the mains.

oldgrumpygit

Define "install"


Do I need a TV licence to listen to digital radio using my TV as a receiver?

No I do not.

sniggings

oldgrumpygit wrote: »

Happy to back it up


From the TV Licensing site

"You need a valid TV Licence if you use TV receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV."

Key word in the sentence above is "use"


Having something that is capable of doing something is not the same as using it.

Hope that clears that up for you.

so your evidence is the word "use" where I provided a court case showing a man WAS convicted for TV licence evading not for "using" but for the TV being capable of receiving a live feed, you can argue the word "use" with the judge but it won't get you very far, good luck with that, I won't be replying to any more of your posts as your argument is now bordering on the silly.