Net migration down nearly 100,000 over the year

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Good news indeed.

A significant fall in net migration. A lot of this is made up of students. Would this be because they now have to pay more? (I'm not sure how fee's worked for overseas students before now).

It might be better to say you're happy about it. Whether it's good news is up for debate. If, as it appears, it's because we've taken a big step in reducing exports and other economies are becoming more attractive to Polish workers then it's very bad news.

If there's been a reduction in people coming here simply to claim benefits then it's good news - is there any evidence of this?

If it was still appropriate (and he hadn't died) I'd write to Jim'll Fix It to help you with apostrophes - it's 'fees' not 'fee's' - how many times?

Graham_Devon

Let's make it clear.

It's terrible news for those relying on immigration increase asset prices and increase employment (which is debatable itself).

It's good news for those of us who see the opposite side and worry about our infrastructure (transport, council departments, agencies, benefits) and increasing asset prices pushed out of reach by the increased demand.

Therefore, for me, it's good news. Jump on the racist bandwagon all you like, call me nasty all you like (though this is a bizzare response to be honest and simply a plain insult)....but you can't force people to come her and it's clear as mud that we won't build or increase road space, won't build houses etc. If we built to accomodate, my feelings would be different. But we don't, so they are not.

So yer - I must simply be a vile, nasty individual with a small mind. Hey ho.

Mr._Pricklepants

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Good news indeed.

Percy1983 wrote: »

To put it simply I think we are becoming less attractive for people to come here, works for me.

I really have great difficulties understanding this mindset.

I know deep down there is this overwhelming desire for house prices to come down, but celebrating bad news is just wrong.

I'd rather see an attractive UK, Percy,that works for me.

robmatic

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Let's make it clear.

It's terrible news for those relying on immigration increase asset prices and increase employment (which is debatable itself).

It's good news for those of us who see the opposite side and worry about our infrastructure (transport, council departments, agencies, benefits) and increasing asset prices pushed out of reach by the increased demand.

Therefore, for me, it's good news. Jump on the racist bandwagon all you like, call me nasty all you like (though this is a bizzare response to be honest and simply a plain insult)....but you can't force people to come her and it's clear as mud that we won't build or increase road space, won't build houses etc. If we built to accomodate, my feelings would be different. But we don't, so they are not.

As has been already pointed out, this mostly seems to be terrible news for the higher education sector rather than a decrease in the 'bad' immigration which increases the benefits bill.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Let's make it clear.

It's terrible news for....

Everybody.

Whether or not they're intelligent enough to understand that.

It's just atrociously bad for the country as a whole.

ruggedtoast

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Good news indeed.

A significant fall in net migration. A lot of this is made up of students. Would this be because they now have to pay more? (I'm not sure how fee's worked for overseas students before now).

Student visa applications are down 46%.

Apparently there is a "massive drop" of those coming from Poland.

Overall gross numbers have also declined by 80,000. Down from 586,000 to 500,000. Meanwhile, the numbers leaving the country increased slightly.

Good news, and it's good to see that the current government is bringing immigration under control. Will take some time, but the result so far look good.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-immigration-continuing-to-fall-as-overseas-student-numbers-shrink-8628822.html

I preferred you before you joined the BNP.

Edit: And now I've been forced to thank a McTavish post.

wotsthat

Percy1983 wrote: »

But if people keep pooring in where will all the young FTBs live... you know the ones you care about so much?

It's interesting that you and Graham have jumped in - one of you struggles to fill his car with petrol and the other has had a 1% pay rise in 4 years.

Maybe we need to import some dynamic people to help share the burden of improving our infrastructure.

Graham_Devon

wotsthat wrote: »

If it was still appropriate (and he hadn't died) I'd write to Jim'll Fix It to help you with apostrophes - it's 'fees' not 'fee's' - how many times?

It's attack on absolutely everything isn't it!

Ooo, he made a grammar mistake....let's hound him!

Idiot.

Graham_Devon

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I preferred you before you joined the BNP.

It was certainly easier around here before I was told I was a member!

Graham_Devon

Percy1983 wrote: »

But if people keep pooring in where will all the young FTBs live... you know the ones you care about so much?

If we actually built and planned to accomodate 200,00 extra people per year, I doubt too many would mind.

But we don't.

We don't have the houses. The national grid is creaking. The water infrastructure isn't up to demand, already with some in London experiencing loss of supplies due to problems down the line.

We hit water shortages if we have a warmn couple of months due to the demand on the resevouirs.

Hospitals are no longer fit for purpose, with more and more problems happening due to the increasing amounts of patients and lack of expansion. Prisons are full.

Roads are congested. The rail system is at max capacity, with not even standing room. Airports are crammed.

It's not just about houses, it's everything. You can't just pile more and mor ein without expanding the infrastructure to cope.