Referendum on its way

pqrdef

antrobus wrote: »

And untrue

Oo-er. And I was hoping we could have a war. I was imagining Bulldog Farage sending the little ships to Dunkirk to rescue all the ex-pats.

grizzly1911

antrobus wrote: »

And untrue. It's in article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon.

A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union.

http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-European-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html

Well that's clear as mud tell us and then we will make something up in a hurry. Nice catch all clause.

antrobus

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Well that's clear as mud tell us and then we will make something up in a hurry. Nice catch all clause.

Yes, it doesn't say anything much more than 'if anyone fancies leaving, we'll have a nice chat, and see if we can come to some kind of arrangement'.

pqrdef wrote: »

Oo-er. And I was hoping we could have a war. I was imagining Bulldog Farage sending the little ships to Dunkirk to rescue all the ex-pats.

Don't abandon all hope. I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities during the negotiation process to establish a convenient excuse to commence hostilities.:)

stinktankcynic

I think a lot of people who will vote to leave the EU will do so because of the bad press. I will vote out because we seem to get none of the benefits whilst pay for the membership in fees, red tape, increased immigration. The majority of people in the UK don't speak a foreign language good enough to work abroad, so we are already at a disadvantage. Either have one Europe, language, currency' retirement age, legal system, pension etc, remove redundant admin and governments... Or pull out.

GhIFA

stinktankcynic wrote: »

The majority of people in the UK don't speak a foreign language good enough to work abroad, so we are already at a disadvantage.

I'm struggling to understand why this is down to being in the EU??

Mr._Pricklepants

stinktankcynic wrote: »

The majority of people in the UK don't speak a foreign language good enough to work abroad, so we are already at a disadvantage.

Which is a failure of our education system.
It's a competitive world out there...get skilled or lose out (and blame the immigrants )

grizzly1911

Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »

Which is a failure of our education system.
It's a competitive world out there...get skilled or lose out (and blame the immigrants )

Or the fact that the vast majority of the world have a good spread of "English", as the global language. I wonder how many "German" call centres are based in Mumbai?

wotsthat

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Or the fact that the vast majority of the world have a good spread of "English", as the global language. I wonder how many "German" call centres are based in Mumbai?

Yes we're very lucky in that respect. It does mean that, for Brits, a few foreign language skills can go further - unfortunately we struggle with even the basics.

It depends where you want to do business. In China you can buy and sell in English because there's a status associated with using the language. When I've been there I'm always being approached by people keen to practice their English.

However, a Brit turning up at Auchan head office hoping to sell something expecting the meeting to be conducted in English might be in for a surprise.