A BB Gun and a Minor Facial Injury

Treevo

I was ready to say phone the police but after reading what your daughter did to him, I'm how more of the opinion that she should be grounded.

Edit: if you do phone the police and he tells them how your daughter stole his property, twice, and then made a racist comment towards him - it won't be him in trouble.

Calien27

Whilst it's possible he had the BB gun out to "scare" her/them away, there's a difference between waving it about to frighten them into backing off or even firing it away from them and actually firing it at them.

If he was using as something to get them to back off he desperately needs to learn better ways of handling things, you can't go around shooting a BB at people every time you get upset/annoyed/angry.

On the flip side, if he was just waving it about for no reason, he still needs to be dealt with. Next time (if there is one) someone could be seriously hurt.

mumps

keystone wrote: »

Yes exactly.

LoL - she is a he. (:D) although a perfectly natural assumption on your part I guess and I'm totally not offended. My wife left us to our own devices some time ago.

Cheers

Oops, sorry. I thought you sounded like a lovely, sensible mum but I guess I shouldn't be so sexist.

Anyway you sound very grounded, not likely to overact to either extreme so I am sure you can sort it. Good luck.

mumps

Treevo wrote: »

I was ready to say phone the police but after reading what your daughter did to him, I'm how more of the opinion that she should be grounded.

Edit: if you do phone the police and he tells them how your daughter stole his property, twice, and then made a racist comment towards him - it won't be him in trouble.

Well I think he is likely to be in trouble but so would the other child. The question is what is the best way to deal with it to keep the children safe and not damage their futures more than is needed, they are kids.

Treevo

mumps wrote: »

Well I think he is likely to be in trouble but so would the other child. The question is what is the best way to deal with it to keep the children safe and not damage their futures more than is needed, they are kids.

I think he'd be in far less trouble than the aggressor would. Especially given there was a racist comment and multiple attempts to steal from this boy.

If there's one thing I'm sure it's when a child makes a racist comment - it's never the first time. Just the first time they've been caught. The OP needs to make his daughter see that bullying and racism is not acceptable.

keystone

967stuart wrote: »

*EDIT

Just seen your reply.

So your daughter stole his scooter and made racist comments to him.

Yes to the former and thats already been discussed with her last night. As to the latter I just knew someone would play the race card eventually. I find your demonstrated intolerance breathtaking. Did I say that it was her that made the comment? I don't personally care if his skin tone is white, black, green or sky-blue pink. Or is it OK to carry around a BB gun and be prepared to use it just in case someone makes a "racist" comment?

Sounds to me like you need to sort your daughter out.

Its getting properly to the bottom of it that I want to do but it sounds thus far like no more than general skylarking to begin with. Am still not entirely sure that the BIB tramping all over in size 15s it is going to be conducive right atm.

Cheers

Treevo

keystone wrote: »

Yes to the former and thats already been discussed with her last night. As to the latter I just knew someone would play the race card eventually. I find your demonstrated intolerance breathtaking. Did I say that it was her that made the comment? I don't personally care if his skin tone is white, black, green or sky-blue pink. Or is it OK to carry around a BB gun and be prepared to use it just in case someone makes a "racist" comment?

Its getting properly to the bottom of it that I want to do but it sounds thus far like no more than general skylarking to begin with. Am still not entirely sure that the BIB tramping all over in size 15s it is going to be conducive right atm.

Cheers

Playing the race card? Why is that always the defence?

mumps

keystone wrote: »

Yes to the former and thats already been discussed with her last night. As to the latter I just knew someone would play the race card eventually. I find your demonstrated intolerance breathtaking. Did I say that it was her that made the comment? I don't personally care if his skin tone is white, black, green or sky-blue pink. Or is it OK to carry around a BB gun and be prepared to use it just in case someone makes a "racist" comment?

Its getting properly to the bottom of it that I want to do but it sounds thus far like no more than general skylarking to begin with. Am still not entirely sure that the BIB tramping all over in size 15s it is going to be conducive right atm.

Cheers

I deliberately avoided the race card but as its come up....... My kids are mixed race, I am white and DH is not, no big deal. I suspect race played a part in my DDs bullying, I knew if I played the race card I would have got more of a reaction but we decided that was not the way to go.

I wouldn't worry too much about alot of opinions on here, they tend to be one extreme or the other and life is rarely that straightforward. Demonising your DD or the boy is unlikely to be helpful. (rich coming from me who has admitted wanting to commit murder when DD was at her lowest but I did resist the temptation which should go in my defence.)

I think you are right to consider this quite carefully and I say again I think the school could do alot more to help.

busiscoming2

duchy wrote: »

What kind of kid is he ? Your daughter will know.

If he's often in trouble at school then I'd personally report it to the police-if he's generally a nice kid who did something dumb and a bollocking from the school would set him right and the school are prepared to do that and not hide behind "It didn't happen in school" (which it didn't but odds are they were in uniform so a school matter if the school chooses to make it one)

As for the parents....any parent who would allow a 13 year old to carry a BB gun in public isn't exactly parent of the year material anyway - so even if you could track them down it might be fruitless.

Totally agree with this. Find out from your DD what he is like before you make any rash decisions. I think I would try to find out what sort of 'talking to' he has had.

keystone

Treevo wrote: »

......and he tells them how your daughter stole his property, twice,......

Oh dear the hoped for proportion is disappearing by the looks of it. Stealing is with an intent to permanently deprive. Thats not what happened by all accounts. Were you never 13?

and then made a racist comment towards him

Please don't autoamtically jump on straight on Stuart's bandwagon. It detracts from the discussion. What was racist about the comment and wasa it my daughter that made it?

- it won't be him in trouble.

I do agree with that part and mostly from me as it happens.

Cheers