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Under Occupancy (Bedroom tax)
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So you are in agreement that the bedroom tax will cause further poverty to children - to simply provide a bed to sleep in? As it's unhealthy to expect your child to sleep in the same room as yourself.
I don't regard it as unhealthy to expect a child to sleep in the same room as its parents sometimes.
When my family goes on holiday, or to stay with friends or family who don't have lots of spare rooms, we often share a room with our 7 year old son. I don't regard that as unhealthy or problematic....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
You would be comfortable to have your 14 year old daughter to sleep in the same room as you?
And she doesn't need her own space while she lives with you?
A dependent child is classed as 0-19 years old, if child benefit is in payment - and it might even be 20 years old now.
So you are happy to share the same bedroom with your 18 year old daughter/son on a regular basis? Is that healthy? :rotfl:
Dear me. I remember sharing a sleeping carriage on overnight trains with my parents, sisters and brother when we were on holiday - at the ages of 10 to 18. I must remember to point out to my parents the damage they were causing by taking us on holiday in this way!
And camping - blimey, what a breach of human rights that is!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »Are the schools STILL on holiday?
Must be. My darling 7 year old's ability to read and write is a mystery to me, because he hardly actually seems to be at school (-:...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
However the other parent who may have the child or children for 3 days a week will only have 1 bedroom.
Not at all.
The other parent will only have 1 bedroom which is wholly paid for by the state.
A crucial fact absent from your statement....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
My way out is 'effort' and forward planning - not to rely on a bail out.
My mission in life is to deliver world class service - and world class products, so far it's all going to plan, but I risked everything.
What did you do?
Wonderful for you. Please take this essential awed pat on the back from the proletariat....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Hi peeps,
I'm posting via my partner who has worked for local housing authorities for the last 20+ years as a private contractor.
She has worked for lots of local authorities housing departments on contracts - and we are opening up this thread to try and explain the facts of the new 'bedroom tax' benefit system.
We will give you the facts - even if they are currently unworkable and unfair to many people in tough situations.
To be blunt - unless you are disabled and you can prove you need an overnight carer - or you are a foster carer or a pensioner, you will be liable/effected by the bedroom tax.
Feel free to ask questions - but unless you fit into the exemptions above there is nothing anyone can do. Unless you barrage your local MP.
There are so many men out there that have 2-3 bedroom properties so they can have their kids at weekends and are now being told they have to downsize to a 1 bed property (or under 35 a shared house) I ask how are these fathers going to see their kids, and allow the children to spend the night with their father?
Approx 15 years ago the Government brought in a law about 'fathers being more responsible for their children' IE Absent Fathers. Now those fathers in need of support are unable to let their kids stay overnight, as they have no bedrooms - who is to blame?
The fathers want to have their kids to stay overnight, but the Government will only give them one room if they are on a low income or unemployed.
Dammed if they do, dammed if they don't.
Dear Mr Bedroom Tax Expert
A 59 man and his 58 year old disabled wife live in a 4 bedroom house with his 9 year old twins (a boy and girl).
He has a 25% cut in his eligible rent for housing benefit purposes because he has 2 surplus bedrooms.
He appeals because his 9 year old son has asthma and he thinks his son should have his own room as he has 2 or 3 severe asthma attacks a year and if they shared a room he would keep his sister awake and David Cameron said parents with disabled children are exempt.
He also has a 22 year old son in the army currently in barracks - he left home when he was 18 - and only pops back to stay for a week or so every 6 months or so when he is on leave - David Cameron said parents of soldiers are exempt from the bedroom tax.
Mr cares for his disabled wife - David Cameron said people requiring overnight care would be allowed an additional bedroom.
So should the couple in this scenarios be allowed 4 bedrooms, 3 bedrooms or just 2 bedrooms?These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.0 -
Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »So should the couple in this scenarios be allowed 4 bedrooms, 3 bedrooms or just 2 bedrooms?
The answer is 5 bedrooms, surely? Since the carer, disabled child, and absent armed forces personnel are each entitled to an extra room?
(just a thought
) I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »The answer is 5 bedrooms, surely? Since the carer, disabled child, and absent armed forces personnel are each entitled to an extra room?
(just a thought )
Sounds like an exam problem question!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »The answer is 5 bedrooms, surely? Since the carer, disabled child, and absent armed forces personnel are each entitled to an extra room?
(just a thought )
As MathewJ is giving advice I would like him to answer to ensure he is giving correct advice
PS The answer is 2 bedrooms only but I am sure MathewJ will explain if I am right or wrong
PPS Never believe the spin from politicians when they try and wriggle out of awkward questions regarding Bedroom Tax.These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.0 -
Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »
He appeals because his 9 year old son has asthma and he thinks his son should have his own room as he has 2 or 3 severe asthma attacks a year and if they shared a room he would keep his sister awake and David Cameron said parents with disabled children are exempt.
since when was asthma a disability? I have asthma and have had attacks and am not saying it can't be serious (my aunt died of it at the age of 13 in the 1970's when healthcare wasn't as good as today) but I don't think two or three asthma attacks a year would mean the child would be classed as disabled or that him keeping his sister awake two nights a year is a huge problem. If the parents believe his son should have his own room that is fine but the parents should pay for it.I am a Mortgage Adviser
You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.0
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