Under Occupancy (Bedroom tax)

lighting_up_the_chalice

MathewJ wrote: »

You are referring to the LHA for a single person rate - a single person rate allowance IE £80 a week is not effected by the bedroom tax. But someone in social housing who has had their full rent paid is now being told they have to pay 14% of their rent for the extra bedroom.
Or they can move to the private sector on LHA which will not cover a 2 bedroom property.

My example of £80 a week LHA is as stated - an example, LHA can vary from one region to another.

I thought you were very keen on "fathers taking responsibility for their children"... I didn't realise the rest of us were expected to foot the bill.

paddedjohn

Unless your son/daughter(s) are serving in the armed forces.

This is one of the exemptions I totally disagree with, the Son or Daughter is earning a wage so why should benefits be used to pay for their room, when they come home on leave does the parent have their benefits reduced due to having a non dependant earner living there?

MathewJ

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Meanwhile, families, including single parents, including single, male parents, who have been languishing in the bottom end of the private sector, kids going without to cover the rent top-up, will be quite pleased to see another social housing family home available for their kids to occupy on a full time basis. Or do they not matter anymore?

So you are in agreement that the bedroom tax will cause further poverty to children - to simply provide a bed to sleep in? As it's unhealthy to expect your child to sleep in the same room as yourself.

Dogger69

MathewJ wrote: »

So you are in agreement that the bedroom tax will cause further poverty to children - to simply provide a bed to sleep in? As it's unhealthy to expect your child to sleep in the same room as yourself.

Why is it? Please explain ...

lighting_up_the_chalice

paddedjohn wrote: »

Unless your son/daughter(s) are serving in the armed forces.

This is one of the exemptions I totally disagree with, the Son or Daughter is earning a wage so why should benefits be used to pay for their room, when they come home on leave does the parent have their benefits reduced due to having a non dependant earner living there?

I'm with you on this one. I was just pointing out the exemptions missed by the OPs erroneously definitive list.

bloolagoon

MathewJ wrote: »

So you are in agreement that the bedroom tax will cause further poverty to children - to simply provide a bed to sleep in? As it's unhealthy to expect your child to sleep in the same room as yourself.

Sofa?


Do they not exist? Or living room floor, perhaps we pay for aunts, uncles, step children to have spare rooms too.

When my family visit my folks my children share a room with my husband and I in the sitting room. This can be for 2 weeks at a time.

MathewJ

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I thought you were very keen on "fathers taking responsibility for their children"... I didn't realise the rest of us were expected to foot the bill.

I think you need to read my response before posting again Sir...

I am the original poster, and I have already paid over £250,000 in tax - and I fully expect to pay another £500,000 in the next few years in tax.

Please don't antagonise me with your views, I AM footing the bill.

Probably much more than you can dream? So I am allowed to surely have an opinion that is balanced - and not one of 'I'm happy in my bubble' so sod the rest of you lot...

There are a lot of genuine people trying hard to get out of the benefits system as it hurts their pride. Sometimes we spend too much energy spanking the wasters who sponge of our generous society - and the good ones, get tarred with the same brush. It's not fair - that's my point.
You know by now I'm not a Daily Mail editor...or reader, I prefer to make my own opinions based upon fact and real situations - not those spammed by a 30 year old trog working for Murdoch:A

lighting_up_the_chalice

MathewJ wrote: »

So you are in agreement that the bedroom tax will cause further poverty to children - to simply provide a bed to sleep in?

No. What i am very clearly saying is that the larger, under-occupied properties vacated by those unwilling to pay the bedroom tax will provide a welcome opportunity for other families (including their children) to obtain safe, secure, affordable, suitable, family accommodation. How you can defend 1 child having 2 bedrooms when others have none is a complete mystery to me.

MathewJ wrote: »

As it's unhealthy to expect your child to sleep in the same room as yourself.

Perhaps you should be telling that to the families living in overcrowded housing. While your doing that, could you also explain to them why you think a single person should have a 2-3 bed house for occasional access visits from his children because he shouldn't be sleeping in the same room as them?

bloolagoon

To pay £500,000 in tax in 20 years you earn £185,000 plus, perhaps you can give your excess money to a charity to help those you favour?

Meanwhile I will favour those with coppers left in private rents who dream of paying £10 a week for their room with secure tenancy.

You need to live in our world not upper class superiority.

lighting_up_the_chalice

MathewJ wrote: »

I think you need to read my response before posting again Sir...

I am the original poster, and I have already paid over £250,000 in tax - and I fully expect to pay another £500,000 in the next few years in tax.

Please don't antagonise me with your views, I AM footing the bill.

Probably much more than you can dream? So I am allowed to surely have an opinion that is balanced - and not one of 'I'm happy in my bubble' so sod the rest of you lot...

I really don't care a jot how much tax you have or haven't paid. However much it is, it doesn't give you any authority over MY feelings about how MY tax should be spent. Ma'am.

MathewJ wrote: »

There are a lot of genuine people trying hard to get out of the benefits system as it hurts their pride. Sometimes we spend too much energy spanking the wasters who sponge of our generous society - and the good ones, get tarred with the same brush. It's not fair - that's my point.
You know by now I'm not a Daily Mail editor...or reader, I prefer to make my own opinions based upon fact and real situations - not those spammed by a 30 year old trog working for Murdoch:A

Perhaps the bedroom tax will provide an even greater motivation for people to clamber out of welfare dependency. Wouldn't THAT be a positive thing?