Under Occupancy (Bedroom tax)

MathewJ

Dogger69 wrote: »

Why is it? Please explain ...

You would be comfortable to have your 14 year old daughter to sleep in the same room as you?

And she doesn't need her own space while she lives with you?

A dependent child is classed as 0-19 years old, if child benefit is in payment - and it might even be 20 years old now.

So you are happy to share the same bedroom with your 18 year old daughter/son on a regular basis? Is that healthy? :rotfl:

bloolagoon

MathewJ wrote: »

You would be comfortable to have your 14 year old daughter to sleep in the same room as you?

And she doesn't need her own space while she lives with you?

A dependent child is classed as 0-19 years old, if child benefit is in payment - and it might even be 20 years old now.

So you are happy to share the same bedroom with your 18 year old daughter/son on a regular basis? Is that healthy? :rotfl:

Again,sofa?

paddedjohn

MathewJ wrote: »

You would be comfortable to have your 14 year old daughter to sleep in the same room as you?

And she doesn't need her own space while she lives with you?

A dependent child is classed as 0-19 years old, if child benefit is in payment - and it might even be 20 years old now.

So you are happy to share the same bedroom with your 18 year old daughter/son on a regular basis? Is that healthy? :rotfl:

You are chatting cr4p now, if the child resides at the house then they will have their own room or shared room with a sibling but if the child is staying over at their dads/mums then why should a bedroom be paid for there aswell.

Dogger69

MathewJ wrote: »

You would be comfortable to have your 14 year old daughter to sleep in the same room as you?

And she doesn't need her own space while she lives with you?

A dependent child is classed as 0-19 years old, if child benefit is in payment - and it might even be 20 years old now.

So you are happy to share the same bedroom with your 18 year old daughter/son on a regular basis? Is that healthy? :rotfl:

I see no problem with it at all. You have not explained why you feel it is unhealthy?

bloolagoon

Dogger69 wrote: »

I see no problem with it at all. You have not explained why you feel it is unhealthy?[

I do all campers need to stop those holidays, sharing a tent with your child is criminal! I need imprisoned for sleeping with my boys when we camp.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

family courts DO NOT approve of same room living space nor do social services approve of a mattress on the floor or sharing a sofa bed or confined living spaces.

the family courts want to see a father providing basic living arrangements, such as a bedroom for privicy (depending on age), a private space to clothe and change.

under occupany clashes in some respects with what a family court would rule as appropriate and what social services would deem appropriate living arrangements, its amunition to a already strained relationship between father mother and child for the mother to limit or cease overnight stays.

but i also approve of the bedroom tax i live in social housing, there are people living here that are occupying a 3 bed house and their on their own or a couple, theres even a 4 bed house (one of about 8 on the HA portfolio) that a single couple, children left home, occupie and it angers me to know that they aquired the house stating they were foster carers, only to foster one child for 2 weeks and never fostered again, they and 2 daughters 1 daughter died years ago, have had a lavish paid for, 4 bed house with big garden and conservitory, and there are people out there in dire need of that house.

what i dont agree with is passing and cutting the HB budget in wales to local authorities who cant make up the short fall, not only do they have to pay UOT but also have to contribute more out of their JSA towards their rent my local authority have picked the tab up for this year, but next year, everyone in my local area may have to pay around £30 per month council contributions, and £15-25 permonth in rent contributions, aswell as UC giving social housing rent money to the tenant rather than the social housing department is going to make for an interesting statistical study here in wales.

MathewJ

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I really don't care a jot how much tax you have or haven't paid. However much it is, it doesn't give you any authority over MY feelings about how MY tax should be spent. Ma'am.



Perhaps the bedroom tax will provide an even greater motivation for people to clamber out of welfare dependency. Wouldn't THAT be a positive thing?

The big picture here my Lady... is I am providing jobs for people, and taking people off the UK's dependency/social care list.

So ignoring (and I agree with you) my personal tax bill not giving me any more or less voice - we all have one vote. I am doing something about the problem.

Your tax has a £ value - and in real business and economics it's the zeros that matter.

A voice and opinion is something most of us are born with - what matters is those who WALK the TALK and can do something about it - rather than ramble on about their tax being spent on crap.

When you can show a 20+ person, £1m contribution to our system - feel free to ramble on about your 'bubble'

Until that day - I would like to keep this 'ON topic' about the current debacle that our government is forcing through to appease our middle class minds.

Think outside your bubble for a moment - lose your job, lose your savings and forget about your silver spoon inheritance - then climb out of the pit while others sneer down at you?

Dogger69

bloolagoon wrote: »

Again,sofa?

I have a male friend with seven children, three different mothers, the children range from six to nineteen. He lives in a one bedroom flat, where he has double bunkbeds. In the week these are used by himself and his seventeen year old son, who lives there permanently. At the weekend it is a free for all, lots of mattresses and quilts across the two rooms, the place looks like one big sleep over. It has never caused a problem, no child has come to harm. In fact I think it adds to their enjoyment of their time with dad!

lighting_up_the_chalice

Dogger69 wrote: »

I see no problem with it at all. You have not explained why you feel it is unhealthy?

Perhaps he knows about your poisonous wind?

paddedjohn

MathewJ wrote: »

The big picture here my Lady... is I am providing jobs for people, and taking people off the UK's dependency/social care list.

So ignoring (and I agree with you) my personal tax bill not giving me any more or less voice - we all have one vote. I am doing something about the problem.

Your tax has a £ value - and in real business and economics it's the zeros that matter.

A voice and opinion is something most of us are born with - what matters is those who WALK the TALK and can do something about it - rather than ramble on about their tax being spent on crap.

When you can show a 20+ person, £1m contribution to our system - feel free to ramble on about your 'bubble'

Until that day - I would like to keep this 'ON topic' about the current debacle that our government is forcing through to appease our middle class minds.

Think outside your bubble for a moment - lose your job, lose your savings and forget about your silver spoon inheritance - then climb out of the pit while others sneer down at you?

!!!!!! are you rambling on about? beddy byes for you me thinks;)