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  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
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    Sampong wrote: »
    No I didn't miss he request I just chose to ignore you becuase I found your post/s boring and pointless - for example;



    huh?

    I did say in the original post though (key point bolded);



    I guess you must have missed it, since I have been waiting several days for you to read it.

    The original post is my opinion, and my suspicion. But another factor to bear in mind (which relates to the bolded text) is that the government have for a long while refused to talk about mass immigration. They have refused to acknowledge there are any resulting problems connected to it. And they refuse to produce any meaningful reporting or statistics that do anything other than tow the party line - which may explain the lack of any "evidence".

    However, sometimes the only "evidence" you need is some common sense which seems to be severely lacking in some people, and realise that a fast expanding population and mass immigration is likely to put pressure on infrastructure. You really don't need to be a genius to work this out.

    So instead of sitting there smugly tapping away at the keyboard thinking you have one over on somebody on the internet because they haven't bothered to respond to your post - perhaps you should direct your frustration at the establishment to actually start reporting accurately.

    See how UKIP supporters duck and dive when challenged to answer questions on their policies. :rotfl:
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    Moby wrote: »
    See how UKIP supporters duck and dive when challenged to answer questions on their policies. :rotfl:

    They duck and dive do they Mooby? Seems to me that it's the other parties who are ducking and diving at the moment - in fact they are practically on red alert.

    :T
  • BobQ
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    Sampong wrote: »
    They duck and dive do they Mooby? Seems to me that it's the other parties who are ducking and diving at the moment - in fact they are practically on red alert.

    :T

    You also chose not to answer my question above about UKIP policy on the NHS. Obviously you do not have to respond, and I appreciate that anything falling outside your core "principles" (mass immigration and the EU) is a challenge, but what is the holistic policy for dealing with the NHS? Or does it just amount to no immigration, problem solved?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • GhIFA
    GhIFA Posts: 619 Forumite
    BobQ wrote: »
    You also chose not to answer my question above about UKIP policy on the NHS. Obviously you do not have to respond, and I appreciate that anything falling outside your core "principles" (mass immigration and the EU) is a challenge, but what is the holistic policy for dealing with the NHS? Or does it just amount to no immigration, problem solved?

    To be fair Bob, he did say this in an earlier post:
    Incidentally, UKIP have a policy to streamline the NHS and clean up procurement and management.

    However, that's vague enough to be totally meaningless - not sure there's much further that things can be "cleaned" up in the procurement process, as the procurement function is struggling enough at the moment to meet the demands of the service on the budgets they're being asked to meet. Still, a few nice buzz phrases in their policy so it's all perfectly clear.............
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  • BobQ
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    GhIFA wrote: »
    To be fair Bob, he did say this in an earlier post:

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    Incidentally, UKIP have a policy to streamline the NHS and clean up procurement and management.
    ..........

    You are correct, but I then asked him in response to that comment.
    BobQ wrote: »

    Streamlining the NHS is a good policy, very populist, which means what. Contracting out services by tender to private healthcare providers?

    As you say they have a nice set of buzzwords but if they expect people to vote UKIP they need to explain their policies.

    This thread is an example of a serious political issue with A&E staffing and Sampong's solution is that the root cause is mass immigration. The question of their real policy for the NHS is decidedly vague as far as I can see.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • resilie
    resilie Posts: 179 Forumite
    Sampong wrote: »
    No - we're not clear. You can take whatever you want from my response. Makes no difference to me. But no, I don't accept what I say is a load of tosh. If you really want something to back it up pay a visit to any A & E department in the East of England. Speak to the some of the nurses there.

    The responses may surprise you.

    Of course witnessing it with your own eyes still won't be good enough for you, because it's not a "stat".


    Funny that- I actually work in an A&E department in the East of England- ask any of my colleagues who clogs up the department unnecessarily the most and they will all say DRUNKS! Just got home from a 13h shift and not once did the thought of pesky immigrants being the cause of my busyness cross my mind...
  • StevieJ
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    BobQ wrote: »
    You are correct, but I then asked him in response to that comment.



    As you say they have a nice set of buzzwords but if they expect people to vote UKIP they need to explain their policies.

    Is that one of those sneaky oxymoron's? if they explain all their right wing policies they would only get right whingers voting for them?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    Sampong wrote: »

    You need to do better than link to the DM they have a very long history of hating immigrants.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    You need to do better than link to the DM they have a very long history of hating immigrants.

    No I don't.
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