Money Grabbing Vet!!!

melancholly

i guess this thread makes me very thankful that we have the NHS so that we don't have to fork out similar amounts to see a doctor.....

blessings3

Too right! It may not be perfect but the American scenario does not bear thinking about

joan_brennan

sorry i dont know how to reference the post i am responding to but it starts like this "Joan I'm not trying to be patronising " same as no offence meant. well plenty taken! Dogs are clever but never remember the vet’s number. How is that not patronising? Not that i am one, but parents have to take it upon themselves to call the doctor when their kids get sick. I feel the same about my responsibility to my dog. it is my dog I know better than anyone the point before he is really sick. You know the times when he takes a rabbit off one of the cats eats until he is gorged and then sits looking like hes got tummy ache. yeah that would be because of what he had eaten. It doesnt take a vet or doctor to tell me that. I am responsible and i do feel patronised but maybe i am cross at the wrong people maybe it is not the vet but the professional body. The implication .... its just dawning on me like a big ah ping moment ... It s like social services checking up on you.. that maybe you cant be trusted to do the right thing by your pet... i love the dammed thing and it feels like you (vets) dont trust me and oh by the way pching cough up some cash for your irrisponsibility. As for the bit on long term repeat prescriptions I have made the point that all they do is listen to heart etc. and lets agree what long term means. I currently get 120 x 60ml ephiphen ( 1 x twice a day) so that makes it 3 months dosage are you saying by listening to heart etc you can tell what organ damage is going on? and by the way the vet cant force blood tests so how is s/he accountable ? but you are right i would not blame the vet or go making formal complaints.The key here is I am both responsible and accountable.

blessings3

It wasn't supposed to be patronising it was supposed to be mildly amusing rather than overtly aggressive and rude as some of the previous posters seam to have been at even the merest suggestion that a vet might know something about animals that the owners may be unaware of.

I thought I could be ‘informative without being rude I’m sorry you didn’t see it that was - funny old thing perception isn’t it

It does surprise me how many people visit vets and want to be told what they want to hear and how many think that training for 7 years hold very little relevance to knowledge or respect/affection for animals

We not talking about a tummy upset which if you ‘’clear up poo’’ yes you would be well aware of we talking about as Flip side said a variable and sometimes difficult to treat problem

You can buy these drugs off the internet (NOT RECCOMENDED) if you really want to treat the dog yourself.

And as for trust you have changed vets 3 times all of who insist on the same procedures but you say they should trust you and your judgment??? - al little mutal respect goes a long way - both ways

blessings3

PS you do sound very responsible and accountable - unfortunately due mostly to litigation the ''rules'' tend to be to the lowest common denominator and individual judgment is very limited

superscaper

blessings3 wrote: »

It wasn't supposed to be patronising it was supposed to be mildly amusing rather than overtly aggressive and rude as some of the previous posters seam to have been at even the merest suggestion that a vet might know something about animals that the owners may be unaware of.

That was the way I read it. The dogs not being able to phone the vets was merely an amusing emphasis to me rather trying to patronise the other poster. I got the point you were making quite clearly from that and didn't think it was intended to offend. Vets can't rely on pet owners always being vigilent enough to pick up on something wrong with their pets as they can't explicitly tell you if there's something wrong with them and so more frequent checking up than for a human with the same condition makes sense to me.

Unfortunately when typing, some of the emphasis and stressing on wording and emoting gets lost in the pure text.

Joan brennan: to quote a previous poster you just have to click on the "quote" button of their post (bottom right hand corner). You can then delete anything out of the quote you want to shorten it. You could do it manually with the

coding but I personally think it takes too much effort and you're more likely to end up accidentally misquoting someone.

blessings3

Thamnks - if I ment to offend or patronise I would like to think my intention was very obvious lol - but somthing I would not like to do to Joan who is obviously caring and responsible pet owner - no slime intended !!!!

the_flip_side

the same can be said for your vet, ie both responsible and accountable, it has been pointed out in a previous thread that s/he is the professional and the buck needs to stop somewhere. some people do look to place the blame as i well know.

one reason for auscutating the hrt is to look for primary hrt dz, eg a mummur, this can be totally unrelated to the epilepsy but it is not an uncommon finding iespecially in older dogs, both conditions can be treated, it all very well having a stable epileptic dog only for it to suffer from pending hrt failure.

owners always know when their pet isn't well, granted, but the reason why they take him/her to the vet is to find out specifically what is wrong and to get appropriate treatment, to take your rabbit / tummy ache senario, is his/her abdominal pain due to a relatively simple bacterial over-infection that should responce to broad spectrum antibiotics or could it be due to a sinister bone splinter starting to pierce the gut wall.

call me a sceptic but if everyone did right by their pet the RSPCA would be out of a job

good night, its time for my horlicks

Fleago

I think that blessings3 has summed up the ideal relationship with a vet perfectly in saying that there should be mutual respect. We've had a long and very happy relationship with our vet practice and I think that mutual respect is the key to it. Our dogs are the only ones they see of a particular and uncommon breed, so the vets will always listen to us in regards to breed particulars, foibles etc that might inform a diagnosis. They also know that we understand our dogs and can pin point what's worrying us.

In return, we know that they are the experts when it comes to diagnoses and treatment and will take their advice after freely discussing any options that are available with them. We also trust them that they will not recommend unnecessary things and we also respect that sometimes it can be difficult to get to the nub of a problem and it might be a case of trial and error.

Moreover, it's not a fancy high tech practice and the prices are very reasonable indeed. We know that they would refer us to a specialist if it was required, so despite it not being a "fancy" practice, we are confident that our dogs receive the best care possible. Because of this, and the fact that I'm conscious that they do endeavour to keep costs down, I would never ask them for a prescription to buy medication elsewhere - we have one dog on daily medication and I'm happy to pay for the drug from them and to pay the consultation when the dog has her regular check up in order to continue the repeat dispensing of her drug. I know, however, that not everyone is able to do this as they have vets with high charges.

Perhaps we are just lucky that we are so well served by our vet practice, but I would like to think that it's really not so unusual!

marleyboy

Vets are hero's as much as Doctors and surgeons. Id much rather take my dog to a vet that I have more faith in their abilities.