Rewarding Scammers

adouglasmhor

campdave wrote: »

I'd like to see an automatic negative for buyer on the completion of a NPB case. Other than that, I think the system is a good as it can be. It's perhaps weighted a little too much towards the seller, but I think this system is better than the previous system where buyers were worried about leaving negative feedback because a seller could tit-for-tat neg them back.

I recently was a NPB, I had contacted the seller as I accidently bought the same item twice and they said the easiest thing to do was let the case run as an NPB one. I hardly think I deserved a neg, but that is what you are suggesting.

onetwothree123

Using ebay as a buyer or seller is a stressful experience and for the unenlightened these posts show how rife scams and fraudsters are, with shill bidders( people with lots of accounts who buy their own goods to get feedback and so on) and fake good , false claims made. Ebay seem a BIT more strict no and ban people from opening so many cases if an unusually high amount of item not received cases are opened or there are a lot of negatives they generally close the persons account quickly.

Unfortunately, until the scam buy and sellers are caught eventually and struck off, it still goes on day on and day out with much inaction and apathy shown when ebay "report" button is pressed to alert them to something dodgy, it can often go totally ignored and you save a listing and watch it and it is never removed. There are other times , they act and remove a listing.

Ebay is very inconsistent with its dealings with scammers and puts me right off buying or selling there again.

RainbowDrops

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I recently was a NPB, I had contacted the seller as I accidently bought the same item twice and they said the easiest thing to do was let the case run as an NPB one. I hardly think I deserved a neg, but that is what you are suggesting.

The easiest thing would have been to do a mutual cancellation - that wouldv'e been instant.
They obviously wanted to give you a strike.

RFW

onetwothree123 wrote: »

Using ebay as a buyer or seller is a stressful experience and for the unenlightened these posts show how rife scams and fraudsters are, with shill bidders( people with lots of accounts who buy their own goods to get feedback and so on) and fake good , false claims made.

They are by no means 'rife'. Posts on here highlight people with complaints. I had a post a while ago about an abusive customer, I don't post about 10,000 other customers without a problem. To
me rife would suggest something over 20% of transactions, the reality is that it's far below 1%. Admittedly certain categories and items will always attract scammers, most don't.

campdave

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I recently was a NPB, I had contacted the seller as I accidently bought the same item twice and they said the easiest thing to do was let the case run as an NPB one. I hardly think I deserved a neg, but that is what you are suggesting.

It's as easy to do a mutal. Now you have a NPB strike!

campdave

onetwothree123 wrote: »

Using ebay as a buyer or seller is a stressful experience

Balderdash. it's irritating sometimes. I've never felt under any stress when buying on ebay.

RFW

campdave wrote: »

Balderdash. it's irritating sometimes. I've never felt under any stress when buying on ebay.

I bought a phone case yesterday, parcel hasn't arrived yet, calling the docs now for some valium and using a nail file.

adouglasmhor

campdave wrote: »

It's as easy to do a mutal. Now you have a NPB strike!

Well one in several years is trivial.

onetwothree123

Bit of a long story but what I meant about stress ..... stressful buying experience via ebay in someone elderly who is not in the best of health getting send abusive emails from an angry male seller is not very nice.

I mean some things affect people differently, like my elderly mother buying an item she priced up in Amazon and Argos etc and seen much cheaper for sale at ebay in a private sale, and so bid and won and when it arrived her "new-other " previously opened box coffee maker machine arrived evidently had been used, she find it's wet inside and leaking on first use! The seller replies in a sequence of unhelpful eff you style emails. They tried to say" it didn't leak must have been something YOU done".

That may sound like something person in their 20's or 30's etc can laugh off but someone of 70 plus gets a little upset as the pension doesn't stretch very far and she's landed with an unusable heavy to post item and she's been ripped off.

The seller eventually decided to fess up and repay her money back saying "just keep it " when she said she would post it back if they paid return costs.

There are a lot of plonkers out who think they can write anything on an ad at ebay and no one will be any the wiser. Con men and women don't have feelings and don't care less for what happens at the other end. I know this sounds a minor thing and my mum moved on but at the time she kept talking about it and it was causing her undue stress for a few days , she can't cope with being ripped off , whereas us young uns can shrug it off easier

ballisticbrian

Sorry, but if the buyer doesn't say anything and waits for the NPB, it's too late to change it to a mutual. That's purely the buyers fault.