housing benefit reduction. a solution but the council is blocking it!

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

so they are allowed to under occupy regardless of who pays their rent?
yet youre quick enough to spout that 'selfish bene4fit claimants' are stopping families having homes?

so only working age benefit claimants occupy homes that a family could rent? glad you clarified that

I was suggesting a way in which someone in your situation could downsize - I wish I hadn't bothered!

Dogger69

nannytone wrote: »

as i said .... if i moved away, it wouldnt be financially prudent to my PA. and what help is she if i live in an area that she doesnt know either?

Newsflash - many people are capable of being a PA. If you were to keep the same one, and she was not able to find her way around a new area, what on earth is she doing in that role?

nannytone wrote: »

but when people have no alternative to under occupancy it is a hostage situation.

there are not enough 1 bed properties in both the socail and provate sectors to rehome the people that need to downsize.
so some people will have NO choice even if they were forced to move.

sp shoulkd they live in a tent or carboard cox?

Broken record time - we all have choices. No one is holding you hostage, you choose not to make (positive) changes to your life.

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

I was suggesting a way in which someone in your situation could downsize - I wish I hadn't bothered!

so do i.
you only ever offer judgement, and the only deserving people are thos who work and can provide, or thos who have done ok and have been able to make provision for themselves

nannytone_2

Dogger69 wrote: »

Newsflash - many people are capable of being a PA. If you were to keep the same one, and she was not able to find her way around a new area, what on earth is she doing in that role?



Broken record time - we all have choices. No one is holding you hostage, you choose not to make (positive) changes to your life.

without doubt she would find her way around.
so for 22 hours a week, i would be alowed a life, and for the other 146 i could sit at home alone?

whereas where i live now i have friends. i go out with them too ( god forbid anyone should have a life that isnt through a paid employee) and they visit me at home!

but surely that is too much to ask for.

do you spend all but 22 hours a week on your own?

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

you need to realise that the properties that are needed just arent available.

Apart from the 30 one bedroom units that ARE available this week alone.

http://www.derbyhomefinder.org/Data/ASPPages/1/37.aspx

Or the hundreds (yes HUNDREDS) that have been available over the lat 6 months, many attracting only ONE bid!!!

http://www.derbyhomefinder.org/Data/ASPPages/1/31.aspx

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

yiu searched yourself. you founf 2 1 bed flats above shops with outside access in villages 5 miles away. and a 2 bed house in a delapitated condition in the town where i live that was withing budget.
so dont start calling me a liar now, when you had to scratch the bottom of the barrel yourself to find something in my area

But find them I did.... YOU haven't even bothered to register for re-housing!!

Dogger69

nannytone wrote: »

without doubt she would find her way around.
so for 22 hours a week, i would be alowed a life, and for the other 146 i could sit at home alone?

whereas where i live now i have friends. i go out with them too ( god forbid anyone should have a life that isnt through a paid employee) and they visit me at home!

but surely that is too much to ask for.

do you spend all but 22 hours a week on your own?

Actually I don't think I even spend 22 hours a week with another person, and I know many people that would say the same!

If you moved ten or fifteen miles away are your friends going to abandon you? If so, they're really not friends.

Can you not make any effort towards independent living, like thousands of other disabled people do?

TattyG

I am sad to say that this seems to be one of those situations where you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. So much good advise on here that is being ignored x

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

Dunroamin wrote: »

But I thought that you could only go out with your PA, so why would moving to an area you don't know be a problem? You've also said that you're very isolated where you live now and it's miles away from your family and there are no employment opportunities in your town.

It's things like this that people find confusing.because i dont just go out .... friends visit me too! or does no one visit you at home?

it tends to help if they live near dont you think?

as i said .... if i moved away, it wouldnt be financially prudent to my PA. and what help is she if i live in an area that she doesnt know either?

why should peoiple have to sacrifice everything they know because they are disabled?
you seem to think that as long as i have a roof and some food then i shouldnt excpect anything more from life.

i pity your husband.

you feed him every few hours and the rest of the time you expect him to just sit and wait for his next meal?
no?
but thats what you want others to doi

1. If you moved, you could get another PA - there would be dozens of people who would be happy to go to the gym with you and taxi you around for £10 per hour!

2. None of my friends would think that a 40 minute drive was any barrier to a visit any more than I would think it a problem to visit them.

3. I actually think that you should get expect more out of life than you obviously do, the difference is that I think that you should expect far greater independence (with the aid of a dog and/or a stick) and retraining and/or further educational opportunities so that you can get the most out of the remaining 20 years of working life that you have.

4.To reiterate, my husband is severely disabled, he really can't do anything very much except sit around (reading and listening to music) in between meals. The idea of his being able to cope with people running in and out all the time is just laughable and shows how little you understand about someone with this degree of disability!

Dunroamin

TattyG wrote: »

I am sad to say that this seems to be one of those situations where you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. So much good advise on here that is being ignored x

Even worse, so much good advice that's probably just seen as bullying!