housing benefit reduction. a solution but the council is blocking it!

nannytone_2

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I agree. Real people. Real problems. Real needs. Like the 1.8 MILLION languishing on the waiting list for social housing. They're real to. As are the 600+ homeless families who stayed in bed and breakfast accommodation for more than 6 weeks in the last quarter. How would you suggest your circumstances should be best explained to them? Or are they not quite "real" enough for you?

i feel for them all. i campaigned when the LHA rate was lowered and when the age for 1 bed rate was raised to 35. at the time i was claiming no benefits, so had no vested interest, just natural human concern for others.

but you seem to think that because one group is disadvantaged, the answer is to disadvantage another group to make it 'fair'
homes for the homeless wont be found because of the reduction in benefit, as many of those affected have no alternative. it will just mean even more are put under severe strain and pressure,

but as long as its fair its ok to make even more people suffer though ...

nannytone_2

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

And yet you have previously stated that you moved following the end of a relationship.

5 minutes away from where i lived with my partner.
the same area, the same layout, the same facilities.
noty 10 miles away to a place i didnt know and with no support from friends.
big difference.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

i feel for them all. i campaigned when the LHA rate was lowered and when the age for 1 bed rate was raised to 35. at the time i was claiming no benefits, so had no vested interest, just natural human concern for others.

but you seem to think that because one group is disadvantaged, the answer is to disadvantage another group to make it 'fair'
homes for the homeless wont be found because of the reduction in benefit, as many of those affected have no alternative. it will just mean even more are put under severe strain and pressure,

but as long as its fair its ok to make even more people suffer though ...

Homes for the homeless WILL be found by people giving up empty rooms.

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

i paid full rent up until the past 18 months ( when i lived in rented housing obviously)
but for dunroamin to suggest that people find pensioners with 1 bed places to exchange with ( all pensioner properties here are 2 bed anyway, apart from multiple occupancy sheltered housing) is insensitive to say the least. many pensioners claim hb and to find someone in the same situation as yourself just because your benefit gets cut and theirs doesnt is harsh.
even if that were possible to do, there would still be significant costs involved and many dont have the funds do it.

Why is it harsh to suggest this?

It would be a win win situation with the pensioner getting a larger flat for no extra cost and the non pensioner avoiding the HB reduction. I really can't see why you have aproblem with that, if it were possible.

nannytone_2

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Homes for the homeless WILL be found by people giving up empty rooms.

they cant give up the rooms if they have nowhere else to go!

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

they cant give up the rooms if they have nowhere else to go!

They have somewhere else to go, but they CHOOSE not to.

nannytone_2

so i CHOOSE not to go and live somewhere that i know no one and have no support?
it shouldnt be a problem at all to move to a totally unfamiliar area, with no idea where you are or where anything else is?
you do it every day of the week dont you? blindfolded of course

Dunroamin

clemmatis wrote: »

To me, a flat or house share occurs when people share a flat/house by agreement. If/when someone leaves, the remaining tenants advertise for, and choose, a replacement.

Rooms in the kind of house I'm talking about are advertised separately by the landlord/s and occupied separately, but the kitchen and garden are shared.

These are IME really rather different.

I think that things have changed, with sharers having separate tenancy agreements, although sharing as you describe was certainly the norm in the 70s when I was sharing. Nowadays, even student houseshares are normally with separate tenancy agreements.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

so i CHOOSE not to go and live somewhere that i know no one and have no support?
it shouldnt be a problem at all to move to a totally unfamiliar area, with no idea where you are or where anything else is?
you do it every day of the week dont you? blindfolded of course

It was certainly a stroke of luck, you facing imminent homelessness, the getting offered a 2 bed ,modern, new build flat, in a remote, rural location, with hardly any social housing, exactly where you wanted.

Having won that kind of lottery, I'm sure the very modest bedroom tax will be a very reasonable price to pay to keep that 2 bed ,modern, new build flat, in a remote, rural location, with hardly any social housing.

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

so i CHOOSE not to go and live somewhere that i know no one and have no support?
it shouldnt be a problem at all to move to a totally unfamiliar area, with no idea where you are or where anything else is?
you do it every day of the week dont you? blindfolded of course

But I thought that you could only go out with your PA, so why would moving to an area you don't know be a problem? You've also said that you're very isolated where you live now and it's miles away from your family and there are no employment opportunities in your town.

It's things like this that people find confusing.