housing benefit reduction. a solution but the council is blocking it!

bloolagoon

This is something I disagree with as the poster above highlights. If the difference between bedrooms is £5 pw on current rents that is all they should pay. Not 14% but true cost, it's unfair on lower rentals to pay more than none claimants

nannytone_2

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Of course they are. The homeless have NO home. But they are also prioritising those effected by the bedroom tax. It's all in the allocations policy.... YOU should have a look.

we dont have a homless issue here though. as i have said previously people are hgoused withimn 3 months of applying. the council seem to want to leave it empty until a homeless person happens to come along

bloolagoon

nannytone wrote: »

i paid full rent up until the past 18 months ( when i lived in rented housing obviously)
but for dunroamin to suggest that people find pensioners with 1 bed places to exchange with ( all pensioner properties here are 2 bed anyway, apart from multiple occupancy sheltered housing) is insensitive to say the least. many pensioners claim hb and to find someone in the same situation as yourself just because your benefit gets cut and theirs doesnt is harsh.
even if that were possible to do, there would still be significant costs involved and many dont have the funds do it.

if im lucky enough to get the exchange i want, i will need to borrow from family, and in the long run it will right itself because i wont need to top my rent up. but ive never borrowed money before, as i believe in living within my means, and i really hate to have to do it now

Why borrow from family? Surely they'd give if have money. Society is screwed when this occurs.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

of course its bloody emotive!

its all very nice for you to sit and discuss the rights and wrongs as you see them ... but it is real peoples lives we are talking about, not just an exercise using ficticious scenarios

I agree. Real people. Real problems. Real needs. Like the 1.8 MILLION languishing on the waiting list for social housing. They're real to. As are the 600+ homeless families who stayed in bed and breakfast accommodation for more than 6 weeks in the last quarter. How would you suggest your circumstances should be best explained to them? Or are they not quite "real" enough for you?

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

If people pay their own way then they have choices that others who are reliant on benefits don't - that's one of the advantages that working should bring.

To add, my parents moved about 10 miles away from where they'd lived for 40 years when they needed to move to a ground floor flat - if they'd waited for social housing in their immediate area, they'd have been dead before they'd been allocated anything!

Mind you, they didn't consider that moving 10 miles was moving out of their area, they would have laughed at the idea.

so its ok for someone to start a bew tenancy in a property too big as long as they pay their rent?
then the poor overcrowded families dont count anymore?

your parents moving 10 miles TOGETHER and with the support of each other ( and vaguely in the same area that theyd known for 40 years) is a different matter to a blind person on their own moving the same distance in an area they have only lived in since they were almost blind.
at the point i moved here i was with a partner and moved almost 200 miles without issue.
doing the same alone is unthinkable

clemmatis

Dunroamin wrote: »

How is that different from a share?

To me, a flat or house share occurs when people share a flat/house by agreement. If/when someone leaves, the remaining tenants advertise for, and choose, a replacement.

Rooms in the kind of house I'm talking about are advertised separately by the landlord/s and occupied separately, but the kitchen and garden are shared.

These are IME really rather different.

lighting_up_the_chalice

bloolagoon wrote: »

This is something I disagree with as the poster above highlights. If the difference between bedrooms is £5 pw on current rents that is all they should pay. Not 14% but true cost, it's unfair on lower rentals to pay more than none claimants

But non claimants aren't asking everyone else to pay their share.

clemmatis

nannytone wrote: »

so its ok for someone to start a bew tenancy in a property too big as long as they pay their rent?
then the poor overcrowded families dont count anymore?

Yes. That is exactly what they're saying.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

so its ok for someone to start a bew tenancy in a property too big as long as they pay their rent?
then the poor overcrowded families dont count anymore?

your parents moving 10 miles TOGETHER and with the support of each other ( and vaguely in the same area that theyd known for 40 years) is a different matter to a blind person on their own moving the same distance in an area they have only lived in since they were almost blind.
at the point i moved here i was with a partner and moved almost 200 miles without issue.
doing the same alone is unthinkable

And yet you have previously stated that you moved following the end of a relationship.

nannytone_2

bloolagoon wrote: »

Why borrow from family? Surely they'd give if have money. Society is screwed when this occurs.

because i would only acceot it as a loan. my parents manage, but like most, are on a tight budget.

it would be no different to my daughter asking me for money. i coukd probably give her £100 but i would need it back because i dont have money to spare ( i try to sit on £100 in case of emergency... but from nect month i will need to dip into it as i have had an extra bill this month)