17 year old speeding, will he get banned

Big_Bob_999

My son was out riding his motorbike with 2 mates, basically they went double speed limit and got stopped by police.

All 3 are going to get done for excessive speed,

Dont get me wrong it was his own fault and motorbike is up forsale, and basically he could have killed himself!

But as soon as got stopped by police decided to give up his bike, buckle down with his car lessons which he has now passed.

However if he gets banned he will lose his new job.

Went to primary hearing at court who basically said come back in month as you will be told on that date, how long banned for. He said will lose job, they said get solicitor.

Trouble is solicitors cost money, would legal aid cover any of this

Any suggestions
Thanks

laurz121

Obviously he should be banned under normal circumstances so a few questions that could make a difference.

What job does he do? How is his job dependent on him being able to drive?
Had he passed his test before he got the job or did he get the job first?
What kind of bike licence did he have and how long had he held it?
And if he got stopped for doing double the speed limit and was prosecuted then how has he been able to take his driving test since then? Did he take the test before the court date?

thanks

jonuk7

legal aid are usually there if your on very low income or jobseekers allowance/income support, it may be worth finding one who does a free first consultation and seeing what they say. the other thing with it is if you get 5 (i think) points within your first 2 years passing your test its an automatic ban anyway, i got pulled on the M1 a month or so ago doing 105 mph (stupid i know) and i got 6 points for that in court luckily it was after having my license for the 2 years so kept it. he may be very luck and get a fine and 3 points... what you need is like said above it needs to be made clear how important driving is to his career etc nd if he loses his licence hell lose his job etc... but id definatley get a freebie solicitor for an hour and squash all the questions into that..

Big_Bob_999

THanks for your quick reply

He is a trainee chef at a nursing home so does not have to drive, but works funny shifts and job is a longway away 1 1/2 hrs.

Bike license was only a provisional, part 1, 8months held
But he has just passed car test, 2 weeks before court date.

Had job just before commiting the offence
Does this help?

So guess will be banned for motorbikes but think this will affect his car license

Keith

You only have one licence, lose one, lose them all.

shammyjack

Big_Bob_999 wrote: »

My son was out riding his motorbike with 2 mates, basically they went double speed limit and got stopped by police.

All 3 are going to get done for excessive speed,

Dont get me wrong it was his own fault and motorbike is up forsale, and basically he could have killed himself!

But as soon as got stopped by police decided to give up his bike, buckle down with his car lessons which he has now passed.

However if he gets banned he will lose his new job.

Went to primary hearing at court who basically said come back in month as you will be told on that date, how long banned for. He said will lose job, they said get solicitor.

Trouble is solicitors cost money, would legal aid cover any of this

Any suggestions
Thanks

He will and should get banned , hopefully until he is mature enough to realise speeding can cost lives including his own ( idiot ! )

Hard lessons are usually the most remembered, I hope he learns from his .

By the way, why should the tax payer fund his legal fees when he is so obviously guilty of braking the law and shows a complete disregard for others ?

Would you be posting on here if he had run down and killed a child !


shammy

Hermione54

Was he doing 140 mph? I don't think this will be viewed sympathetically by the court, frankly, and I think he will lose his licence for probably 6 months. It would be worth getting a good solicitor, though, and grovelling - you never know, he might get lucky. It's a bit of a lottery.

zappahey

shammyjack wrote: »

He will and should get banned , hopefully until he is mature enough to realise speeding can cost lives including his own ( idiot ! )

Hard lessons are usually the most remembered, I hope he learns from his .

By the way, why should the tax payer fund his legal fees when he is so obviously guilty of braking the law and shows a complete disregard for others ?

Would you be posting on here if he had run down and killed a child !


shammy

It never takes long for the sanctimonious to appear, who have never been young, who have never broken the law and who have never made a mistake in their lives.

Presumably if it was your son, you'd be first in line to throw away the key?

shammyjack

zappahey wrote: »

It never takes long for the sanctimonious to appear, who have never been young, who have never broken the law and who have never made a mistake in their lives.

Presumably if it was your son, you'd be first in line to throw away the key?

Not sanctimonious, just realistic and yes I have been young , were you born old ?

I have an 18 year old son who is a trainee surveyor, past his test first time, has a company car and is a careful and considerate driver !

I past my test 7 days after my 17th birthday ( 54 now ) and have never had an accident or insurance claim in my life .

Good drivers have to pay for the mistakes of idiots, WHY !


shammy

FlameCloud

Big_Bob_999 wrote: »

My son was out riding his motorbike with 2 mates, basically they went double speed limit and got stopped by police.

All 3 are going to get done for excessive speed,

Dont get me wrong it was his own fault and motorbike is up forsale, and basically he could have killed himself!

But as soon as got stopped by police decided to give up his bike, buckle down with his car lessons which he has now passed.

However if he gets banned he will lose his new job.

Went to primary hearing at court who basically said come back in month as you will be told on that date, how long banned for. He said will lose job, they said get solicitor.

Trouble is solicitors cost money, would legal aid cover any of this

Any suggestions
Thanks

He could always stand up and take his punishment you know...

Yes, it maybe a bit sanctimonious, but going twice the speed limit for that particular road is something he deserves to get punished for. Say he killed a small child (entirly possible, given that it was probably a built up area anyway), you'd be screaming for justice then and asking why he wasnt banned before.

zappahey

FlameCloud wrote: »

He could always stand up and take his punishment you know...

Yes, it maybe a bit sanctimonious, but going twice the speed limit for that particular road is something he deserves to get punished for. Say he killed a small child (entirly possible, given that it was probably a built up area anyway), you'd be screaming for justice then and asking why he wasnt banned before.

It's entirely sanctimonious and entirely predictable that the cry of "Think of the children" is trotted out every time someone asks for advice, in this case not even for himself.

Can we just take it as read that the punishment is entirely deserved, that speeders will rot in hell and perhaps leave room for some practical advice?