Courtesy lines on road.

SPELLKASTER

bigboybrother wrote: »

I agree. You will have to report the matter. As I have said before it is not illegal to park next to a dropped kerb, nor is it illegal to block someone's driveway.

When it does become illegal is if it can be proven to cause an obstruction.

By the time it takes for someone to turn up to issue a ticket, the car could well have been parked there for hours and then be driven away.

The driver could well argue that he wasn't parked but merely 'waiting' for someone.

Quite honestly you have to rely on the good manners of drivers to avoid this problem. Some don't particulary care where they park.

I would point out that going out and photographing the offending vehicle could well inflame the situation if the driver caught you doing it. You might end up getting arrested under the Public Order Act as doing something that could cause upset, annoyance or anger to another person or make the driver have fear for his own safety.

You are wrong.

It IS illegal to block someone's driveway; the police told me it carries a fixed penalty notice and a fine of around £85 in my area!!

I have taken to photgraphing vehicles from my front bedroom window, the I write the registration number directly on the photograph itself.

mysk_girl

It's only illegal to stop someone getting OFF their driveway - impeding access to the public highway. It's not illegal to prevent them getting ON to their driveway...

I have a dropped kerb to off street parking in an area with very limited parking, and this is what the local PCSO told me...

bigboybrother

SPELLKASTER wrote: »

You are wrong.

It IS illegal to block someone's driveway; the police told me it carries a fixed penalty notice and a fine of around £85 in my area!!

I have taken to photgraphing vehicles from my front bedroom window, the I write the registration number directly on the photograph itself.

No it is not. There is no such law that says that you cannot park there. There is a law that says that if you do park there you may be causing an obstruction which carries a fine - much the same as someone who parks half on the road, half on the footpath. That too is an obstruction.

As for sitting at your bedroom window taking photographs, I do hope that they don't include a person or a child in it.
It seems that you have too little to do in your life. No doubt that you have some night vision goggles as well in case they park there after it gets dark?

bigboybrother

mysk_girl wrote: »

It's only illegal to stop someone getting OFF their driveway - impeding access to the public highway. It's not illegal to prevent them getting ON to their driveway...

I have a dropped kerb to off street parking in an area with very limited parking, and this is what the local PCSO told me...

Thankyou. It is important in this example to make sure that there is no car on the driveway first.

bigboybrother

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Photograph is an arguable point, I would argue that if it covers your property and not other peoples drive / property that's fine in law. Waiting "for someone" is another urban myth and illegal in this case, a delivery driver for example offloading to that dropped kerb address would be legal. A series of photographs of the same offender would facilitate the earlier intervention from the local authority - give them the tools for the job - make their life easier - see where it goes from there.

Yes the police can be called not just the LA, hence my earlier comment "register or re-register your dropped kerb with your local authority for enforcement purposes" - give the police the tools for the job - tell them you are registered with the LA - make their life easier - see where it goes from there

well put, but to be honest what ordinary person is going to go to those lengths - all that they will do is make an absolute nuisance of themselves with the police and the council.

Parva

bigboybrother wrote: »

There is no such thing as 'registered disabled' anymore.

Neither of us is registered disabled. I'm probably fitter than some able bodied people!

And there in a nutshell is why people have so much hatred of you and every new account you make. I'm not a fan of PiP or UC but if it catches you then I'll gladly lose benefits to see you suffer.

paddedjohn

mysk_girl wrote: »

It's only illegal to stop someone getting OFF their driveway - impeding access to the public highway. It's not illegal to prevent them getting ON to their driveway...

I have a dropped kerb to off street parking in an area with very limited parking, and this is what the local PCSO told me...

Up until a couple of days ago I would have agreed with you but its now been changed so that you can be fined for blocking access aswell.;)
See my post below.

paddedjohn

bigboybrother wrote: »

No it is not. There is no such law that says that you cannot park there. There is a law that says that if you do park there you may be causing an obstruction which carries a fine - much the same as someone who parks half on the road, half on the footpath. That too is an obstruction.

As for sitting at your bedroom window taking photographs, I do hope that they don't include a person or a child in it.
It seems that you have too little to do in your life. No doubt that you have some night vision goggles as well in case they park there after it gets dark?

The traffic management act 2004 section 86.
Prohibition of parking at dropped footways etc.


(1)In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge where—

(a)the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet the level of the carriageway for the purpose of—

(i)assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,

(ii)assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or

(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway across the footway, cycle track or verge

martinthebandit

bigboybrother wrote: »

By way of an example, my closest town has some very narrow streets. There are no parking restrictions and so both sides are used by the residents to park their cars.
This has been going on for years as it would be impossible to get anything down that street any wider than say a Ford Focus. An ambulance or Fire Engine would have no chance.

Is it obstruction? The council say not, besides which even if it was, with a Fire Engine trying to get down to a fire how long would it take to get up to 40 odd cars moved from one side of the road?

How long to get them moved?

There used to be a story circulating about the flixborough fire.

A fire appliance needed to gain access down a road that the parked cars of onlookers had made too narrow.

The appliance was driven down the road damaging a fair number of the cars and it was followed by a policeman who duly ticketed all the damaged cars for obstruction.

I have no idea if its true or not, but 'back in the day' if I had to bend a few cars to get an appliance where it needed to be then I happily would.

I know the time I had to smash a car window to enable it to be pushed out of the way to gain access to a hydrant it was parked over the owner, when he eventually turned up was not happy but we never heard anything further about it.

Sorry for the thread derail OP.

mysk_girl

paddedjohn wrote: »

The traffic management act 2004 section 86.
Prohibition of parking at dropped footways etc.


(1)In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge where—

(a)the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet the level of the carriageway for the purpose of—

(i)assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,

(ii)assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or

(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway across the footway, cycle track or verge

Excellent :-) We rarely have issues, and they are usually quickly resolved. It is useful to know the official position though!