📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Courtesy lines on road.

Could someone advise me how to get our courtesy lines which signify a dropped kerb, parking access required, renewed please. When we moved here three years ago, we were please we had off road parking with dropped kerb and more pleased we had white lines painted on the road. Sadly they require refreshing and extending slightly, but we have no idea who to ask. Further to that, we don't know who pays.
«134

Comments

  • bigboybrother
    bigboybrother Posts: 342 Forumite
    edited 26 April 2013 at 5:12PM
    islandman wrote: »
    Could someone advise me how to get our courtesy lines which signify a dropped kerb, parking access required, renewed please. When we moved here three years ago, we were please we had off road parking with dropped kerb and more pleased we had white lines painted on the road. Sadly they require refreshing and extending slightly, but we have no idea who to ask. Further to that, we don't know who pays.

    There is no legal requirement to have a solid white line painted on the road outside someone's property or by a dropped kerb. Anyone can park outside someone's home or by a dropped kerb.
    It comes in the same category as parking near the brow of a hill or humpback bridge or on a bend.

    The Highway Code only indicates that it is good manners not to do so. Obviously the general law of obstruction does apply, but only if you have an officer attend and have him/her agree that there is an obstruction taking place and that he/she cannot have the offending vehicle moved.

    Given that such a white line or even a dropped kerb carries no legal weight as such, the council can refuse or not bother to renew the line.

    When we used to live in a seaside village, we had day visitors using our driveway as a car park, leaving just enough room for me to squeeze past to get out. I regularly found up to three cars parked there all day. When caught, I was either treated to some choice language, asked where they could find alternative parking or simply ignore me and drive away. There is nothing illegal about it and it was something we had to put up with as the parking had been going on for years before we moved in.

    You would have to rely on the good manners of the public not to park outside your gateway - white line or not.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,353 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    But we would still like to get them refreshed. They are observed in our area, not just our's but neighbours also. Maybe I will approach the council., Thanks anyway
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • islandman wrote: »
    But we would still like to get them refreshed. They are observed in our area, not just our's but neighbours also. Maybe I will approach the council., Thanks anyway

    As I have said, they have no legal standing and people are well within their rights to park there. As such you may have to convince the Highway Authority that the cost involved is reasonable.

    It really annoys me when people try to claim part of the public highway as being restricted/reserved for the resident.
  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    Solid white lines only have on meaning:

    They are Edge of Carriageway marks, nothing more.

    Many people think that they mean 'no stopping' or 'no parking'. They don't.

    Your council might re-mark them, but this is unlikely given the current economic conditions.

    Pot hole > Meaningless road marking
    British Ex-pat in British Columbia!
  • Macca83_2
    Macca83_2 Posts: 1,215 Forumite
    Islandman, I've had a wee look at some of the local council websites. It seems fairly easy to apply for a restricted access or private access protection for a small fee. But, they do state on their websites that whilst they will try to maintain it, they cannot guarantee that they will.

    Best bet would be to contact your local council.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,353 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Will follow that through. My wife is registered disabled so it might have some bearing.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • islandman wrote: »
    Will follow that through. My wife is registered disabled so it might have some bearing.

    There is no such thing as 'registered disabled' anymore.

    One person's definition of being disabled is not generally the other person's definition.

    I receive - HRM, MRC, have a motability car that comes with free car tax. My wife receives the highest rate of AA. Neither of us is entitled to any extra consideration as regards having a white line painted on the road opposite our driveway.

    Neither of us is registered disabled. I'm probably fitter than some able bodied people!

    If it was, there would be white lines dotted all over the place!
  • By law no one is allowed to park across a dropped kerb - nothing to do with white lines painted on a road. However if someone needs disabled access 24/7 incase of emergencies which do happen then I would ring and ask your council about that as they can and do paint no parking markings on the road where this is needed. Transportation dept would be the ones to ask first I think.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,353 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    There is no such thing as 'registered disabled' anymore.

    One person's definition of being disabled is not generally the other person's definition.

    I receive - HRM, MRC, have a motability car that comes with free car tax. My wife receives the highest rate of AA. Neither of us is entitled to any extra consideration as regards having a white line painted on the road opposite our driveway.

    Neither of us is registered disabled. I'm probably fitter than some able bodied people!

    If it was, there would be white lines dotted all over the place!

    I was not aware of what you say. All I know is that my wife is disabled and receives DLA at the higher rate (mobility) and the DLA at lower rate,(personal). So when I say she is "registered" disabled, it was because I was/am of the opinion that she is registered as disabled. I know of no other way to describe it. If my choice of words is incorrect, maybe I should simply say she is "disabled" and wait for comments.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    As I have said, they have no legal standing and people are well within their rights to park there. As such you may have to convince the Highway Authority that the cost involved is reasonable.

    It really annoys me when people try to claim part of the public highway as being restricted/reserved for the resident.

    Wrong! The white line itself might have no standing, but parking accross a dropped kerb is 'causing an unneccessary obstruction' - £30 FPN and possibly having your vehicle towed and incurring several hundred pounds in fees on top.

    Olias
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.