Courtesy lines on road.

Richie-from-the-Boro

islandman wrote: »

I was not aware of what you say. All I know is that my wife is disabled and receives DLA at the higher rate (mobility) and the DLA at lower rate,(personal). So when I say she is "registered" disabled, it was because I was/am of the opinion that she is registered as disabled. I know of no other way to describe it. If my choice of words is incorrect, maybe I should simply say she is "disabled" and wait for comments.

- white or any other line if you want it re-painted contact your local authority
- a dropped kerb [and the PCN issue / contravention] starts from the point at which the angle of the regular kerb changes



- register or re-register your dropped kerb with your local authority for enforcement purposes
- anyone parking there needs your [landowner] permission, you can 'request an enforcement' [not complaint] to your LA

Realistically, you would need a list of times, days and vehicle numbers of offenders to help the enforcement officer / warden / police catch and issue a PCN.

harveybobbles

Ask for a disabled bay to be painted?

Or if you get no joy, just go out with a small gloss roller and some white paint and freshen the lines up your self

bigboybrother

olias wrote: »

Wrong! The white line itself might have no standing, but parking accross a dropped kerb is 'causing an unneccessary obstruction' - £30 FPN and possibly having your vehicle towed and incurring several hundred pounds in fees on top.

Olias

I agree it would be classed as obstruction as I originally said. The fact that there is a solid white line or a dropped kerb by themselves are NOT covered by any other law other than the one relating to general obstruction.

The Highway Code makes it quite clear in section 243 that you 'don't' as opposed to 'you must not'. 'You must not' is governed by a definitive legal requirement. 'Don't' is simply advisory although if you cause an obstruction you may be fined for that obstruction but not for actually parking by a dropped kerb.

https://www.gov.uk/waiting-and-parking/parking-239-to-247
If I parked outside someone's house next to a dropped kerb, there isn't a thing that anybody can do. The householder would have to complain to the police or the council after the event.

bigboybrother

Horseunderwater wrote: »

By law no one is allowed to park across a dropped kerb .

What law? There isn't one. The only redress someone will have is to complain to the council that somebody keeps blocking your driveway. If, and it's a big if, someone from the council is made to come out and sees the parking by a dropped kerb, the first thing they have to do is to find out if the owner of the vehicle would move it. If the vehicle isn't moved, then the registered keeper of that vehicle will be fined under the law of general obstruction.

No doubt you will find that the car will be moved well before you can get the council to do something.

bigboybrother

harveybobbles wrote: »

Ask for a disabled bay to be painted?

Or if you get no joy, just go out with a small gloss roller and some white paint and freshen the lines up your self

I wish more people would have these painted outside their homes - it increases the number of disabled spaces that anyone with a BB can use.

bigboybrother

By way of an example, my closest town has some very narrow streets. There are no parking restrictions and so both sides are used by the residents to park their cars.
This has been going on for years as it would be impossible to get anything down that street any wider than say a Ford Focus. An ambulance or Fire Engine would have no chance.

Is it obstruction? The council say not, besides which even if it was, with a Fire Engine trying to get down to a fire how long would it take to get up to 40 odd cars moved from one side of the road?

SPELLKASTER

We had to apply to the local Council for the white lines because we had trouble with people parking across our driveway.

It cost us £60 because they had to contact Highways to do s survey.

If, like us you are having problems with people parking across the drive, then you need to contact the police and they will give the offender a fixed penalty if they block access to your drive.

SPELLKASTER

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

- white or any other line if you want it re-painted contact your local authority
- a dropped kerb [and the PCN issue / contravention] starts from the point at which the angle of the regular kerb changes



- register or re-register your dropped kerb with your local authority for enforcement purposes
- anyone parking there needs your [landowner] permission, you can 'request an enforcement' [not complaint] to your LA

Realistically, you would need a list of times, days and vehicle numbers of offenders to help the enforcement officer / warden / police catch and issue a PCN.

I would also photograph the offneding vehicle, and make sure that the photograph has time and date stamp on it; I have to do this as I have had problems with people parking across my dropped kerb even though I got the white lines down.

bigboybrother

SPELLKASTER wrote: »

I would also photograph the offneding vehicle, and make sure that the photograph has time and date stamp on it; I have to do this as I have had problems with people parking across my dropped kerb even though I got the white lines down.

I agree. You will have to report the matter. As I have said before it is not illegal to park next to a dropped kerb, nor is it illegal to block someone's driveway.

When it does become illegal is if it can be proven to cause an obstruction.

By the time it takes for someone to turn up to issue a ticket, the car could well have been parked there for hours and then be driven away.

The driver could well argue that he wasn't parked but merely 'waiting' for someone.

Quite honestly you have to rely on the good manners of drivers to avoid this problem. Some don't particulary care where they park.

I would point out that going out and photographing the offending vehicle could well inflame the situation if the driver caught you doing it. You might end up getting arrested under the Public Order Act as doing something that could cause upset, annoyance or anger to another person or make the driver have fear for his own safety.

Richie-from-the-Boro

SPELLKASTER wrote: »

I would also photograph the offending vehicle, and make sure that the photograph has time and date stamp on it; I have to do this as I have had problems with people parking across my dropped kerb even though I got the white lines down.

Photograph is an arguable point, I would argue that if it covers your property and not other peoples drive / property that's fine in law. Waiting "for someone" is another urban myth and illegal in this case, a delivery driver for example offloading to that dropped kerb address would be legal. A series of photographs of the same offender would facilitate the earlier intervention from the local authority - give them the tools for the job - make their life easier - see where it goes from there.

Yes the police can be called not just the LA, hence my earlier comment "register or re-register your dropped kerb with your local authority for enforcement purposes" - give the police the tools for the job - tell them you are registered with the LA - make their life easier - see where it goes from there