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just been sanctioned, not my fault

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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    edited 3 May 2013 at 6:32PM
    there is proof the JC and the WP try to sanction people with no proof and the individual has to do all the running around getting copies of paperwork to prove they are innocent and this puts people under get stress.

    No due process anywhere these days!!
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  • busy_mom_2
    busy_mom_2 Posts: 1,391 Forumite
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    SaveMeDo wrote: »
    Yes, It's a sad society when people with your mentality thrive, and decent caring people are thrown under the bus.

    You might have a cushy job and be on a nice little earner, but so did the concentration camp guards.

    See you, wouldn't want to be you.[/QUOTE


    Nor me you, nor me you!!!! :beer:

    Good luck.
  • SaveMeDo
    SaveMeDo Posts: 279 Forumite
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    I think This thread is very enlightening.

    Now posters can read for themselves the kind of creatures that inhabit the DWP!
  • krok
    krok Posts: 358 Forumite
    busy_mom wrote: »
    SaveMeDo wrote: »
    Yes, It's a sad society when people with your mentality thrive, and decent caring people are thrown under the bus.

    You might have a cushy job and be on a nice little earner, but so did the concentration camp guards.

    See you, wouldn't want to be you.[/QUOTE


    Nor me you, nor me you!!!! :beer:

    Good luck.

    WELL BUSY MOM I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT WOULD BE BEST IF YOU JUST LOOKED AFTER YOUR CHILDREN AS YOU HAVE NO CLUE OR ANY SENSE AS TO WHAT GOES ON IN THE REAL WORLD.

    UNTICK THE BOX YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.
  • krok
    krok Posts: 358 Forumite
    busy_mom wrote: »
    I've worked my way through the ranks.

    And if we are going to insult at least I am in work, at least 4 years unemployed are we (oh apart from a one week job that you left)!!

    you carry on living off others, and don't give me the there are no jobs, put as much effort into your jobsearch and applying for jobs and you may get one! I mean if some-one so thick and stupid as myself is a manager well what exactly are you holding out for?

    Oh dear busy mom you have resulted into insulting users here who are only trying to help others.

    I find that this is a typical action by goverment workers who dont know what they are talking about.

    This only makes my point clear.

    Do not tick the box because idiots like busy mom will only try to sanction you for any reason they can think of.

    Why dont you go on a anger management course busy mom , it might help you.
  • csmw
    csmw Posts: 579 Forumite
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    Haha this thread amuses me... So many of you THINK you know what goes on in a jobcentre. Assistant advisors, advisors or advisory team mangers do NOT sanction the customers. An advisor simply reffers to a DM who then checks if the customer has complied with their jsag if not they receive a sanction.... It's in black and white on the 1st page of their es40's. Jobseekers is what it's says it is an ALlowence to seek work.

    It's simple really actively seek and be available to take up employment if not sign off!!

    It's disgraceful that you are all attacking busy mom for the job she does... We enforce the rules we don't make them.
  • busy_mom_2
    busy_mom_2 Posts: 1,391 Forumite
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    edited 3 May 2013 at 7:15PM
    krok wrote: »
    busy_mom wrote: »

    WELL BUSY MOM I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT WOULD BE BEST IF YOU JUST LOOKED AFTER YOUR CHILDREN AS YOU HAVE NO CLUE OR ANY SENSE AS TO WHAT GOES ON IN THE REAL WORLD.

    UNTICK THE BOX YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.

    no need to shout, I do know what goes on in the real world very well.

    Have you not read my post I have never agreed anyone gives access to their UJ account, I have personally said I do not like it.
    There really is no need for anyone to give their access. All they need to do it turn up to their interviews will a detailed, truthful jobsearch. Comply with the regulations and they will received benefit until they successfully move back into employment.
    Most people will find work without any intervention by JCP, which is how it should be. Those who do not follow by the rules will receive sanctions, many will be overturned at appeal and many people will live happily off benefits rather then support themselves.
    We cannot change the system. As we move into universal credit I have no doubt it will only get worse.

    Myself, I will continue to juggle work and my family life. I do look after my children, I work so i can offer them the little extras in life and so they grow up with the correct work ethic.

    By the way I do need an anger management course I am not shouting, nor losing my temper. I have not made the personal insults I have received other than to confirm if someone has been unemployed for four years.
  • krok
    krok Posts: 358 Forumite
    csmw wrote: »
    Haha this thread amuses me... So many of you THINK you know what goes on in a jobcentre. Assistant advisors, advisors or advisory team mangers do NOT sanction the customers. An advisor simply reffers to a DM who then checks if the customer has complied with their jsag if not they receive a sanction.... It's in black and white on the 1st page of their es40's. Jobseekers is what it's says it is an ALlowence to seek work.

    It's simple really actively seek and be available to take up employment if not sign off!!

    It's disgraceful that you are all attacking busy mom for the job she does... We enforce the rules we don't make them.

    Well i think we all know that.

    The sanction first starts with the adviser, and if you have nothing to help with this thread then i suggest you log off.
  • busy_mom_2
    busy_mom_2 Posts: 1,391 Forumite
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    SaveMeDo wrote: »
    I think This thread is very enlightening.

    Now posters can read for themselves the kind of creatures that inhabit the DWP!


    Do you mean work there or come because they have to?
  • csmw
    csmw Posts: 579 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 500 Posts Combo Breaker
    krok wrote: »
    Well i think we all know that.

    The sanction first starts with the adviser, and if you have nothing to help with this thread then i suggest you log off.

    Obviously you don't

    Considering I'm a linked advisor I think I know a little more about sanctions then you.
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