What LAW requires a Man or woman to submit a tax return?

Thrugelmir

JohnUKB wrote: »

the more I ask the more ignorance I come across,

There's an old Inland Revenue saying "Ignorance is no excuse".

Think what you wish. There's only going to be one loser.

Remember old tax can be assessed without appeal. Seen plenty of people flayed for evasion. Normal outcome is often bankruptcy.

Andy_L

JohnUKB wrote: »

, so I looked at the Interpretation of the world within the Interpretation Act 1978 c30 SCHEDULE 1.. which definition "PERSON" as a body of persons corporate, It never mentioned a man or woman.

You didn't look at it very well. The 1978 act defines "person" to include "a body of persons corporate or unincorporate"

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/30/schedule/1

[Deleted User]

JohnUKB - I think you have had all the advice you need. Did you really expect hundreds of replies saying .."good grief - JohnUKG is right! There is no need for us to send in a tax form - we're saved from paying taxes!"

please feel free to act as you wish. It is the inalienable right of every citizen to act like a fool if that is their wish, and if these actions result in the treasury getting more money off you in fines, that's a quid more to spend or a quid less they need to take off me.

Do let us know how you get on......

WR

JohnUKB

Wild_Rover wrote: »

JohnUKB - I think you have had all the advice you need. Did you really expect hundreds of replies saying .."good grief - JohnUKG is right! There is no need for us to send in a tax form - we're saved from paying taxes!"

please feel free to act as you wish. It is the inalienable right of every citizen to act like a fool if that is their wish, and if these actions result in the treasury getting more money off you in fines, that's a quid more to spend or a quid less they need to take off me.

Do let us know how you get on......

WR

SORRY you are not correct, all men/woman have inalienable rights whereas a citizen has only the rights he is given .

treasury.... LOL....

There is nothing to put in treasury but paper promises, the money us backed by your labour NOT gold so it makes no difference unless you have millions of ignorant sheep accepting the deception

[Deleted User]

JohnUKB wrote: »

hahahah. yeah right, keep trying to convince yourself your not enslaved into this system that loves you...

You can try to argue how long your chains are but the chains will still be there.

The level of fear and ignorance is unbelievable, all following each other like monkey's just wait till the world comes down on you all because of this ignorance, who will save you and your children from this life sentence of servitude ?

I can envisage you all walking to the gas chambers arguing who goes first

You asked a question. You got an answer. You didn't like the answer, so said why you thought it was wrong. Your basic error in understanding was pointed out to you. You still don't like it. Tough.

As I said, do let us know how you get on in your war against the taxman. I'm sue that we all look forward to seeing copies of your letters on the forum and the replies. Or are you all keyboard and no action:rotfl: ? Actually, no need to answer that - I think we all know.

Oh and in relation to your latest rant - as you clearly won't be putting your money where your mouth is and taking on the taxman, do let us know how you get on overthrowing global capitalism and the nation state. Action please, action!

Now away and troll no more.

WR

ILW

JohnUKB wrote: »

SORRY you are not correct, all men/woman have inalienable rights whereas a citizen has only the rights he is given .

The only rights one has are the ones that those more powerful than you allow you to have.
If you nutty next door neighbour with a gun decides you have no right to breathe any more, he is (in practice) totally correct.

C_Mababejive

I appreciate that the OP may be making a wide pitch and slightly tongue in cheek but i would not call it FMOTL BS.

In fact many of the FMOTL concepts are perfectly valid and up for discussion and they only seem abstract,absurd or bizarre because we have all been conditioned to operate in the capitalist society just like Kims followers in north Korea blindly follow him.

The truth is,non of us is free and we do not have any claim to the very land on which we stand.

All land is the property of the Crown and we simply occupy it by their good grace and sufferance.

They can withdraw that right as they like.

You are only tolerated because you are a taxable entity.

Anselm

C_Mababejive wrote: »

I appreciate that the OP may be making a wide pitch and slightly tongue in cheek but i would not call it FMOTL BS.

In fact many of the FMOTL concepts are perfectly valid and up for discussion and they only seem abstract,absurd or bizarre because we have all been conditioned to operate in the capitalist society just like Kims followers in north Korea blindly follow him.

So, which ones are valid? Do you have any legal authorities to show that FMOTL works in court? I might say some FMOTL follow their theories blindly, even when the theories are demonstrably false.

C_Mababejive

Anselm wrote: »

So, which ones are valid? Do you have any legal authorities to show that FMOTL works in court? I might say some FMOTL follow their theories blindly, even when the theories are demonstrably false.

I am not pitching as a FMOTL expert or even a practitioner and so i couldnt possibly say which ones are valid or invalid.

What i would say is that the concepts only seem bizarre and outlandish because we are capitalist slaves and that it is worth at least opening our minds to those concepts.

Which ones are valid or otherwise? Well it depends who is making that judgement doesnt it.

Natural law would say that everyone on planet earth has an equal stake in its lands and resources.

Others would say no..it is mostly mine and you cant have it without paying me or working for me in exchange for taxable tokens called money which i,the controller,can manipulate and debase at will to further make you enslaved and poorer.

Anselm

C_Mababejive wrote: »

I am not pitching as a FMOTL expert or even a practitioner and so i couldnt possibly say which ones are valid or invalid.

What i would say is that the concepts only seem bizarre and outlandish because we are capitalist slaves and that it is worth at least opening our minds to those concepts.

Which ones are valid or otherwise? Well it depends who is making that judgement doesnt it.

Natural law would say that everyone on planet earth has an equal stake in its lands and resources.

Others would say no..it is mostly mine and you cant have it without paying me or working for me in exchange for taxable tokens called money which i,the controller,can manipulate and debase at will to further make you enslaved and poorer.

So if you're not a practitioner, why make the assertion that they are valid.

Talking about natural law is disingenuous, are you talking about Natural Law moral theory, or Natural law legal theory? Or do you mean the Laws of Nature which aren't to do with Natural law theory?