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We need lose £10,000 before social services grab it
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My neighbour is disabled, has her 12 year old grand daughter live with her, and now because the house has 3 bedrooms her benefits will be hit, and they have no two bedroomed homes to move her into, which for me is very unfair.
RL
Surely there is a catch-22 here. Some people need bigger houses and some people can live in houses smaller than those they have. But unfortunately there aren't lots of empty houses to fill the gap whilst the adjustments take place so it will take time.
I'm for the spare-room-whatever but think the aim should be to make better use of the social housing stock we have rather than save money and they should have given more time for people to move to smaller houses before withdrawing it. This would have then freed up some larger houses.
And yes, I have every sympathy for people that need to move and yes I think we should be building more social housing !
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Thats the worry isn't it. If the Government continues robbing savers through negative real interest rates (net interest rates below the real rate of inflation) then people either won't save, or their savings will not be worth enough to pay for their retirement. To quote http://www.saveoursavers.co.uk/A country without savers is a country without a future.redbuzzard wrote: »What would happen if everybody decided there was "no point" trying to provide for themselves at any point in their lives?
Like Gordon Brown, Osborne doesn't seem to want to look further than the next election. (I hope this short termism backfires on Osborne like it did on Brown.)“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
Glen_Clark wrote: »Yep. Smokers and drinkers pay lots of tax, then they die earlier before they can claim so much pension - a double bonus for the economy. Especially if they are all bought duty paid in Britain.
You think? What of the vast cost to the country of cancer/liver treatments, operations, long term meds and palliative care - required by a huge proportion of these groups? If we move into "heavy drinker", we'd also need to discuss: policing, courts, prison and A+E departments. I'd rethink your "double bonus"...0 -
:T:T Well said Glen
And for that we can blame Mrs Thatcher for selling them all off and not rebuilding new social housing!
My neighbour is disabled, has her 12 year old grand daughter live with her, and now because the house has 3 bedrooms her benefits will be hit, and they have no two bedroomed homes to move her into, which for me is very unfair.
I also agree on the house prices and lack of jobs. My youngest son is not likely to ever own his own home, unless he lands some super dooper well paid job! Mind you what job, there are so many here on the dole and we live in what is known as an affluent area, ie Cambridge!
You cannot blame some people who cannot work through illness but they are bearing the brunt as well as some lazy good for nothings who never have any intention of working let alone properly looking for work, those are the ones who should be penalised, not the elderly or infirm, or in a situation where they are trying so hard to find work but cannot.
RL
Thatcher started it, but successive Governments have made it worse.
I think Blair was worse than Thatcher - they had the same policies, but you knew where you were with Thatcher. And she did have some good points.;) Even now, she still provides the police with plenty of overtime
And she always found the time to help her children. Carol with her Algebra. Sir Mark with his gun running and loan sharking..... “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
Glen_Clark wrote: »Carol with her Algebra.
Are you confusing Carol Thatcher with Ms Vorderman?0 -
Are you confusing Carol Thatcher with Ms Vorderman?
Ah yes, Maggie must have been helping Carol with her Duke of Edinburgh's Award
(Duke of Edinburgh's Award for Tact and Diplomacy when she called the black tennis player a Golliwog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_thatcher )“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
If I may rephrase innovate's reply: do you really expect us taxpayers to advise you on how to steal from us?
The government and banks are doing it already, I have no problem with helping an 80 year old person if she has worked the majority of her life.
We live in a divisive society indeed.
J0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »How much more do you expect them to pay?
And why?
I can guess his responses:
1/ All of it
2/ Greed and self-entitlementHaving a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...0 -
rickypatel89 wrote: »The argument people keep making 'I've paid my taxes, so I should get it".
People don't realise that they've had free health care, dental care, free schooling, subsidised higher education, a state pension and numerous other services. The taxes you've paid barely cover a quarter of what you've received from the state.
Where does the other 75% come from ?0 -
Old_Slaphead wrote: »Where does the other 75% come from ?
People with enough money to not worry about trying to hide £10k from the government..0
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