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  • ukcarper
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    edited 13 April 2013 at 12:35PM
    Generali wrote: »
    What's my background? You said:



    What do you mean by that please?[/QUOTE

    I don't know what background you are from but you implied it benefited you and the only people who benefited from them are the people who went to them so basically no matter what background you come from if you didn't pass your 11 plus you didn't benefi unless of course you went to a Public school.
  • ukcarper
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    edited 13 April 2013 at 12:33PM
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    Really?

    Why would you think that?[/QUOTE

    Experience


    I suppose the problem with comprehensive schools is they have turn out to be completely different to what they were sold as.
  • Generali
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    I don't know what background you are from but you implied it benefited you and the only people who benefited from them are the people who went to them so basically no matter what background you come from if you didn't pass your 11 plus you didn't benefi unless of course you went to a Public school.

    No I didn't. You thought that I implied that I benefited from something.

    I've done ok for myself. Was it as a result of me passing my 11+ or failing it or not taking it or going to posh school do you think?

    Which box do you want to put me in? Am I posh or clever or lucky or just a bit of a dic head?
  • PaulF81
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Generali wrote: »
    What's my background? You said:



    What do you mean by that please?[/QUOTE

    I don't know what background you are from but you implied it benefited you and the only people who benefited from them are the people who went to them so basically no matter what background you come from if you didn't pass your 11 plus you didn't benefi unless of course you went to a Public school.
    Should have worked harder at your 11 plus. First lesson in life there right there.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Generali wrote: »
    Am I posh or clever or lucky or just a bit of a dic head?

    Why limit yourself?

    You could aspire to be all four.

    Like me. :D
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • ukcarper
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    edited 13 April 2013 at 1:26PM
    Generali wrote: »
    No I didn't. You thought that I implied that I benefited from something.

    I've done ok for myself. Was it as a result of me passing my 11+ or failing it or not taking it or going to posh school do you think?

    Which box do you want to put me in? Am I posh or clever or lucky or just a bit of a dic head?

    I probably read to much into your post but I would have thought you were quite cleaver and probably worked hard to get where you are. No idea if you went to grammar school, public school so to clear things up people from what background benefited.
  • ukcarper
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    PaulF81 wrote: »
    ukcarper wrote: »
    Should have worked harder at your 11 plus. First lesson in life there right there.

    You have no idea but then I'm not surprised about that.
  • michael1983l
    michael1983l Posts: 1,916 Forumite
    I have a grammar school in my area yet I did not pass my 11+, yet I earn more than all of my friends that go to Grammar school. Do I think Grammar Schools are a bad Idea? No I do not. Grammar Schools are a great and logical idea, why bunch kids together with completely different learning rates together just to be PC, that just holds back the more gifted children. Segregating them means the ones with a greater mental capacity can learn more and at a faster rate. Grammar schools create our great scientists and other acedemics who go on to do great things for this country. When my kids grow up I want them to go to Grammar school.
  • ukcarper
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    michael1983l wrote: »
    I have a grammar school in my area yet I did not pass my 11+, yet I earn more than all of my friends that go to Grammar school. Do I think Grammar Schools are a bad Idea? No I do not. Grammar Schools are a great and logical idea, why bunch kids together with completely different learning rates together just to be PC, that just holds back the more gifted children. Segregating them means the ones with a greater mental capacity can learn more and at a faster rate. Grammar schools create our great scientists and other acedemics who go on to do great things for this country. When my kids grow up I want them to go to Grammar school.

    The way Comprehensives were sold was that that students would be streamed by ablity further more this would be on a per subject basis. I feel this would have been a good system much better than giving someone a test at 11. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the way it has worked out.
  • michael1983l
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    The way Comprehensives were sold was that that students would be streamed by ablity further more this would be on a per subject basis. I feel this would have been a good system much better than giving someone a test at 11. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the way it has worked out.


    You can have streamed classes but the other kids still influence the brighter pupils thus holding them back a little anyway. Eliteism can be a good thing if used properly.

    Secondary schools can focus their resources in areas that will help the kids best like craft design and technology, wheras the Grammar schools can do the same with Mathematics, science and English. It makes perfect sense.
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