china the worlds new shopping venue?

Brooker_Dave

duncan-biscuits wrote: »

Yes that is it thanks ghd all faked, cheap copied rubbish imported in to rip off consumers, best to buy stick to purchasing your consumer things from the real high street shops see before you buy and money back if you change your mind, zero comeback with any rogue traders on the web in China, using a different currency and no trading standards or recourse.

I would hazard a guess that most of the people flogging the faked ghds are from the uk and doing it on ebay.

Clearly if you are buying from abroad you're not going to get the same rights as you would buying in the UK.

But with the massive increase in postal prices, ebay/amazon prices will have to rise, and buying from dx/aliexpress/taebao etc might become more popular.

Where will that leave people trying to sell on ebay?

duncan-biscuits

Ebay has died on its oops, not allowed to say ,starts with an A though, postal prices too high, final valuation fees are shocking, more and more businesses going down the swanny. Real high street stores fold every day. People buying from charity shops and hanging on to old items longer now and going to recycle sites . I still wouldnt touch Chinese goods bought over a website of unknown credibility .To protect my sanity!

Brooker_Dave

duncan-biscuits wrote: »

Ebay has died on its oops, not allowed to say ,starts with an A though, postal prices too high, final valuation fees are shocking, more and more businesses going down the swanny. Real high street stores fold every day. People buying from charity shops and hanging on to old items longer now and going to recycle sites . I still wouldnt touch Chinese goods bought over a website of unknown credibility .To protect my sanity!

But alibaba is bigger than ebay and amazon put together.

It did not get that big through lack of credibility...

Brooker_Dave

I agree about the ebay/paypal fees and now the post prices making life impossible for many sellers, but ebay/amazon has been a race to the bottom for years, so many sellers must earn nothing.

RFW

Brooker_Dave wrote: »

But alibaba is bigger than ebay and amazon put together.

Only by the size of their domestic market.

Why do you think the market forces on Alibaba (the "race to the bottom" as you call it) would be any different to that of Amazon/Ebay?

Brooker_Dave

RFW wrote: »

Only by the size of their domestic market.

Surly most is exported?

RFW wrote: »

Why do you think the market forces on Alibaba (the "race to the bottom" as you call it) would be any different to that of Amazon/Ebay?

Because they have a massive cost advantage, plus it's where it's all made.

paddyrg

, importers (and distributors) also play an important role in making sure that only products which comply with the legislation and bear the CE marking are placed on the market.

The importer has to verify that the manufacturer outside the EU has taken the necessary steps and that the documentation is available upon request.

If importers (or distributors) market the products under their own names, they then take over the manufacturer’s responsibilities. In this case they must have sufficient information on the design and production of the product, as they will be assuming the legal responsibility when affixing the CE marking

Not quite so black and white when you actually read the thing you quoted.

Your mate down the pub got a welder that looks the same on the surface therefore all Chinese manufactured goods should self-certify CE, is that the conclusion of your posts? I am happy that your mate hasn't come to harm, could have been/still be a very different story, I explained why already.

Irene_SaleHoo

China is the best source for generic goods at the lowest prices, and if you meet a reliable China based supplier, then it's a good luck. However, if you are after brand name products, this is not the place to source them from, as most of the fakes are known to come from China and you will end up with losses on penalty and confiscated goods at the Customs. Add to that the possibility of buying from a scam supplier who will take the money without sending any products at all.

RFW

Brooker_Dave wrote: »

Surly most is exported?



Because they have a massive cost advantage, plus it's where it's all made.

The vast majority of Alibaba sales are within China.

Just because they have a price advantage doesn't mean they won't be over competitive. Albeit different in some ways, the structure of Alibaba compared to Ebay and Amazon is much the same. In general on all of them, sellers compete with each other, buyers search for the lowest priced items.

All 3 have pretty high fees, Ebay's are probably slightly lower. I can't really fathom Alibaba's fee structure, but it looks quite high. Ebay appears to be the only one that pays merchants instantly.

Brooker_Dave

RFW wrote: »

I can't really fathom Alibaba's fee structure, but it looks quite high

Seems to be free:

"So Alibaba made all the basic services it offers free to both buyers and sellers. It earns money through online advertisements and extra services it offers clients, such as website design. With 6m vendors Taobao is a cluttered-up cyberspace. Many sellers think it worthwhile to pay for fancy storefronts and online advertisements to help them stand out."

RFW wrote: »

Ebay appears to be the only one that pays merchants instantly.

"So Alibaba has provided tools to build trust. One is an independent verification service through which third parties vet the claims made by sellers; the sellers pay for the process. Another is the Alipay payments system. Unlike PayPal, used by many Western internet companies, Alipay takes money up front and puts it in an escrow account. Vendors can be sure that payments made through it will be honoured. "

(http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21573980-alibaba-trailblazing-chinese-internet-giant-will-soon-go-public-worlds-greatest-bazaar)

HTH.